Can you read and get one thing straight? If you didn't read from newpapers that tells you definitely "Yao will pay 50% and sign a contract to do that" then stop act like you definitely know that he does need to pay. Stop replace facts with your GUESSING. Show me a f**king article that says Yao does need to pay 50%! In case reading and comprehension are not your forte, I'll repeat it again - YOu Didn't Get Anything Straight. and one more thing, my post was a respond to truth's "Not only, does he have to get excluded from the offense, but he also has to give 50% of his salary to them too. Poor Yao. Defect Now." post. i think what ever you just said also apply to him.
to me, if there isn't any confirmation that yao will pay, that just means he doesn't have to pay. Because confirmation of he pays will make the news, while he dosn't sign contract to pay chinese gov won't. it is like man bits dog will make the news, while dog bits man usually won't.
http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/katz_andy/1374371.html Yao's path to NBA remains twisted -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Andy Katz ESPN.com This much is certain about Yao Ming: He is scheduled to be in Chicago for a 45-minute workout Wednesday. The workout is closed to the public. The four-person Chinese delegation traveling with Yao is also off limits. The NBA isn't running the workout, but is helping facilitate the event. Yao Ming And all of this is conditional, of course, on the 7-foot-5 Chinese star arriving as expected Monday on a plane from Shanghai to Chicago. Clearly, the unknown concerning whether or not Yao will be in the NBA next season is still surrounding the potential overall No. 1 pick. There are still a number of issues to be ironed out between now and the opening tip of the 2002-03 season. Russ Granik, the NBA's deputy commissioner, said he hopes Yao will be in New York for the June 26 draft. Even if Yao isn't there, his name will be in the draft because he turns 22 in September. But questions remain as to what will happen over the next six months. Here's what we know: Yao's Schedule Yao plans to be in Chicago from April 29 to May 3 before returning to China to train with the national team for the Asian Games. He will return with the Chinese National team and train in the states for a month prior to the World Championships in Indianapolis in late July. As a result, he won't play for the team that drafts him during the NBA's summer league because of his Chinese National Team responsibilities. Yao's Contract How will Yao's contract be divided? This is open to interpretation, but it has been reported and confirmed by at least a source in this country that 50 percent of Yao's salary gets divided among the Chinese governing body of sport, the Chinese Basketball Association and the Shanghai Sharks. The other 50 percent is divided among Yao and anyone who has helped him become successful. A vague dispersal of funds, to say the least. On Thursday, it was reported that the Chinese government published new regulations that would force Yao Ming to give at least 50 percent of his pre-tax various Chinese organizations. How will the NBA Players Association react to this? If a Chinese government official is negotiating a contract on behalf of Yao Ming, that person is considered an agent. All certified agents must sign an agreement with the Players Association, which stipulates that an agent can only make a 4 percent commission on that player's contract. If Yao Ming, however, wanted to give half of his paycheck to the Chinese authorities, he can do so. The Shanghai Sharks want compensation from an NBA team. But according to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, an NBA team would be allowed to pay the Sharks only $350,000. Anything above that amount would count as salary and against the team's cap. Since Yao Ming likely would be the No. 1 or No. 2 pick in the draft and would earn the rookie scale maximum of $12.4 million or $11.1 million, respectively, it would not be possible for a team to pay the Sharks anything more than the $350,000. Since second-round picks can get paid any amount, a team could afford to give the Sharks a nice bonus if they took Yao in the second round. That's not likely to happen, though. Yao's Future How long is the uncertainty going to last? There will likely be some sort of conclusion drawn on Yao's status before the draft. Whichever team drafts him will have gone through the exhaustive process of ensuring they know when and how soon they can have Yao on its team. How important is it that he plays for the Chinese national team? It's non-negotiable. He is expected to play for the national team, unlike the U.S. where players often opt out of playing for the Olympic team because they don't feel like it or want to take the summer off of basketball. Will his playing for China affect his NBA obligations? Yes. Wang Zhi Zhi missed part of the season with Dallas when he played for the 2000 Olympic team. Any team that drafts Yao will take him with the understanding that he might have to leave to be with the national team. This, of course, would be worked out in advance and there wouldn't be surprise departures. Yao's Availability Is Yao free to play in the NBA? That is not simple to answer. The Sharks say he doesn't have a contract with them, but his rights are essentially owned by the Chinese governing body of sport and the Chinese Basketball Association. It's a similar set up to the old Soviet and Eastern Bloc system. He's a commodity for the country and the issue is as much about control as it is where his money will be dispersed. Oh, and who will be his agent? Erick Zhang, Yao's current U.S. advisor, told ESPN.com that an agent would be selected for him when he is officially released from the Chinese basketball authorities. Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com. ESPN.com business writer Darren Rovell contributed to this report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now stop giving me "it's maybe a rumor" crap, there is a law that stipulates Yao must pay 50% of his earnings to the government. This may change in the future but for now it stands correct to say Yao will pay 50% to the government. Get your facts straight before you act like a fool.
first, this reporter couldn't get one FACT straight: that so called new regulations wasn't new at all. it installed 16 years around, around 1986, not a "new" regulations. it digged out by chinese reporter because of yao ming such a big event in china. it stated any current NT player who plays in a commerical game needs to give 50% to CBA. that is it. geeeeeeeez..i guess you didn't know that did u? or usa reporter didn't bother to report that? who look like a fool now?
...Uh... coming back to the original theme of the thread... Would somebody who has access to ESPN insider please post the article entitled: Pacific Fixer-Uppers: Should the Sonics keep Payton and Lewis? -- Give Yao the damn ball
first, this reporter couldn't get one FACT straight: that so called new regulations wasn't new at all. it installed 16 years around, around 1986, not a "new" regulations. it digged out by chinese reporter because of yao ming such a big event in china. it stated any current NT player who plays in a commerical game needs to give 50% to CBA. that is it. geeeeeeeez..i guess you didn't know that did u? or usa reporter didn't bother to report that? and o ya, get your facts straight before post such dumb statement: "there is a law that stipulates Yao must pay 50% of his earnings to the government." A law? what are you talking about? CBA is nowhere near as a gov agency that CAN just post laws. that just an inside rule posted by CBA on it's NT players. who look like a fool now? o ya, one FACT i want to add: THIS RULE ONLY APPLY TO NT TEAM PLAYERS, if yao just quit NT team, that rule won't even apply to him. clear now?
How do you prove the above? Because YOU say so? You are laying out contrary statements without anything substantial to back it up while you question the reliablity of the meterials presented which destroys your claim, again, without anything substantial to back it up. Now I got a question for you. How do we know that you are not either a. making things up, b. read unreliable sources, c. a mental patient escaped from a hospital or d. a r****d that can't read? Wait a minute, I think I can at least prove the last part about your reading and comprehension ability. If you can't read, just acknowledge it. I'll happily interpret it for ya as I have great symphathy to illiterate or stupid ppl. In the article it says: On Thursday, it was reported that the Chinese government published new regulations that would force Yao Ming to give at least 50 percent of his pre-tax various Chinese organizations. The Chinese government does not equal to CBA, got it? Geez, now I realized that the word fool might be something over compliment to you. If you agree, I'd be glad to recommend some smart pills for you, believe me, it worths to try in order to read and comprehend better.
Panda: To be fair, I won't be surprised that an American reporter mixed CBA and Chinese Government Up. Heck, They do it all the time.
Yes, it's possible for them to make mistakes like that, however, "true until proven false" as from "innocent until proven guilty".
how stupid can this be? I always assumed it talked about CBA because CHINESE GOVERNMENT never get anything to do with it. and i thought people should figure that out by themself. The chinese government NEVER published anything like that. go ask any chinese fan if chinese government EVER publish anything like that. That was a CBA rule and always was a CBA rule. I strongly suggest you just post a thread in this forum, since there are lot chinese fans here, to ask if CHINESE GOVERNMENT EVER post anything like that. By stating it is chinese government did this, it showed how little that reporter, and you know. "Geez, now I realized that the word fool might be something over compliment to you. If you agree, I'd be glad to recommend some smart pills for you, believe me, it worths to try in order to read and comprehend better. " "If you can't read, just acknowledge it. I'll happily interpret it for ya as I have great symphathy to illiterate or stupid ppl." i am start to get sick tired of your tone here, if you can't talk in a civilized way, then i really will stop talk with u. because from my experience, just two words will be enough for people like you: "f%%% U". but i really don't want to get our conversion to that level, so i just suggest talk for just argument's sake and on a fun level since that is what i come here for, if you can't do it, just say you can't do it. then we can stop this thread. and one more thing: how do i know it? i am a chinese and i read it in chinese site and newspaper on this. and i also worked for chinese sports school before i came to use and i heard about that rule back in 1990 when one of my coaches when to NT to study and came back with it. we had a good laugh at that, because it stated " a commerical game" and we all know basketball in china going to be commericalized soon and no way a player in NT will pay 50% of his earning to CBA each year. they posted this rule, in 1986, just for players who played in these so called "show" games in HK and other places.
Hmmm, I guess you forgot that you already brought the conversation to that level earlier in this thread:
quote:Originally posted by eattoomuch Show me a f**king article that says Yao does need to pay 50%! hmmmmmmmmmmmm...did you even read the whole thing? it just a copy and paste of the same thing he said.
Ok you now admit that your perception of an article is based on what you assumed of what it talked about, instead of what you actually read. I think we're making progress. And you are sick of my tone?! Go back and read your posts and see what tones they had. This is your first response to my take on the 50% rule. Ok I used the F word first, but I was ticked off as I was attacked first just for offering an opinion. You have a nasty attitude problem and you should expect such outcome before you imply personal insult to ppl for offering an oppinion. I suggest you get some manners first before you try to "just suggest talk for argument's sake" 'cuz I'm not finding any of it in this thread. eattoomuch, your statement that the Chinese government has nothing to do with the specific 50% rule is baseless again. First of all, the Chinese government has everything to do with CBA. The sports bureau of China has a basketball administration center(BAC) that regulates the CBA. Since the BAC regulates CBA and basketball players in general, they have the power to post regulations such as the 50% rule. As far as I know Yao was a trainee in public funded sport schools and received free instruction in his earlier years which is the basis for his paying back the government for the cultivation, and Yao's big contract may be the incentive for the center to issue such regulations against Yao. In conclusion, the basketball administration center, which is a part of the government, has the power, the cause and the incentive to post the 50% rule. Unless you have proof that the ESPN article is wrong or outdated, I have to take that article over what you say. Frankly, your personal experience as a Chinese and working in sports school is irrelevant in this discussion. I'm a Chinese too so what I say on CBA must be right? I don't care about your nationality and working experience, just give me facts that back up your claim. From what you said I see a misconception that you might mixed up the new rule with an older one. Since I am a Chinese too, why don't you go find the Chinese articles that you read and let us see it? Truth's statement is not the first one on this topic to appear. This 50% tax rule is an old topic that's rehashed over and over on this site and newspapers. I read confirmation in Chinese media as well. Why don't you do us a favor by doing some research first on sina or sohu.com first, and let this thread go back to its original course?
err back to the original thread (but not stopping the political argument) WTF is that?? that's both insulting and ignorant. when will americans (i'm one too) get off their freaking high horse? i don't know how many times i've heard a lame ignorant comment like that and haven't resorted to bashing america and telling some of the patriots here how other countries see america, how america got to its point of greatness, the longevity of its empire in comparison, and how non-original immigrant americans are basically slowly taking all of the income. sure, america is a great country but it's demeaning because it insinuates yaoming has no pride for being a chinese citizen and would defect because of basketball now if yao has shown some political dissidence with china, or this or that, fine. but has he? no. not every chinese person that some american idiot wants on his side is going to defect because they think america is oh-so-great.
Cato averaged 7, not 10. However, I agree with you point in general. Ming should put up significantly more points than Cato.
