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This Is Ridiculous!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Truth, Aug 31, 2002.

  1. Truth

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    Was I the only one steaming mad at how the Chinese team failed to give Yao the ball? This was a lame TV debut for Yao, although most of it wasn't his fault. He took what, 6 shots, and ended up with 10 points that's pretty good. Now, think about it he took only 6 shots!!! WTF, this guy is 7'6 and your best player and all he gets is 6 shots? 90% of the time the Chinese offense should consist of Yao touching the ball every possesion, hell, after getting a full look at them Yao touches the ball 30% of the time. Now the media will rip Yao, as if this was all his doing, but what else is new? I think this performance could've been 2x better, and it will get better, when Yao gets some real teammates and most importantly REAL COACHING. Not only, does he have to get excluded from the offense, but he also has to give 50% of his salary to them too. Poor Yao. Defect Now.


    Note To Yao: A migraine-ridden, paralyzed Steve Francis is better than any guard on your team.
     
  2. RC Cola

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    Did Hank really say that? Pretty nice guy. :D

    Yeah, the guards are bad. They obviously don't know what a lob is.
     
  3. eattoomuch

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    first, 50% rumor is not true. for example, bateer never did. that 50% was a stupid rule put up about 16 years ago.

    and second, no way yao will defect, you can sleep on it. even wang won't defect, because CBA never really represent chinese gove, years ago, another player from china NT refused to join NT for training like wang, NT just kick him out, he can still play in china in CBA, just not on NT.
     
  4. Panda

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    Bateer and Wang are not Yao. Yao needs to pay that 50% 'cuz his soon to be superstar status has those basketball officials wetting their pants from drooling.
     
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    well the chinese guards r not handling the ball well enough... they r undersized.....bad game for ming
     
  6. eattoomuch

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    that is just ridiculous bullcrap.
    you think yaoming is stupid or something?
    if the other don't pay, you think he will?
    how stupid you think he is? or let me re-write the question: how stupid are you? 50% each year?
    ya right. whatever.
    he is from shanghai, a city famous for produce smart business men.
     
  7. Shark Rocket

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    I guess he has to pay.
    They inked a written agreement. The other two did not sign any thing like that before departing to US because the other two only make a very crappy pay.
     
  8. pippendagimp

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    I think maybe you eat too much. The crap in your colon has backed up into your skull.
     
  9. eattoomuch

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    they inked a agreement for yaoming to come back china to play for NT, not pay 50%. if it is written in the agreement, it will be all over the newspaper by now. no way they can keep that in that dark room. did you read such agreement in the newspaper? anywhere said that he inked one?
     
  10. eattoomuch

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    why is it crap? do you have any facts to support 50% then?
     
  11. Panda

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    You are the one that started this "no Yao doesn't need to pay that 50%" crap without giving any facts but your own speculation. Now you are demanding others to offer facts to back it up. Sort of like "I said you're the criminal, I don't have any evidence, it's on you to present facts to refute me." Hah, congratulation! Seems like you'd finally digested your dinner and came to realization that there's something called *facts* - as that big bone in your stomach had obviously stopped blood flow to your brain.
     
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    Actually, it was all over the newspapers, tv, and the web.
     
  13. ROCS4LIFE

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    China guards don't know how to dribble the ball to the basket, then dish the ball to Yao. That's all they had to do. Then maybe Ming would have had about 30 something points. Just image Francis and Mooch dish the ball to Yao down the basket. Just like they did with Cato to make him look good. Stupid 5 foul rule!
     
  14. Panda

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    If Kelvin Cato can average 10 points off passes from penetration of Cat and Francis, there's no way Yao can't average 18+ points if he gets to touch the ball.
     
  15. eattoomuch

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    can you get one thing straight? who started yao HAS to pay 50% crap?
    "but he also has to give 50% of his salary to them too" this took right from truth's post which started this thread. you didn't catch this or you didn't want to catch it?

    i said he doesn't have to pay because there is not fact said he signed a contract to pay that because i never read it in any of the newspapers.
     
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    pull up one report that reported yao inked a contract to paid that.
    all over newsapers was that rule, which installed 16 years ago. and it got digged out because of yaoming.
     
  17. Panda

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    Can you read and get one thing straight?

    If you didn't read from newpapers that tells you definitely "Yao will not pay 50%" then stop act like you definitely know that he doesn't need to pay. Stop replace facts with your GUESSING.

    Show me a f**king article that says Yao doesn't need to pay 50%!

    In case reading and comprehension are not your forte, I'll repeat it again - YOu Didn't Get Anything Straight.
     
  18. michecon

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    Geez stop it guys. Chinese love to speculate, especially reporters. As far as I know, there isn't any confirmation that Yao will pay that 50%, nor is there any confirmation he doesn't need to pay anything. The only fact we know so far is that Yao signed a "cooperative agreement" with Sharks, which is confermed by his agents. Give it a rest.

    peace
     
  19. Behad

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    From USAToday (5-15-2002):

    As tough as it was for Yao Ming to get permission to enter the NBA draft, teams will have to negotiate a complex bureaucratic maze before they can sign the 7-5 center from China.

    The 21-year-old Yao, who held a public workout last month and privately worked out for the Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks, could be the No. 1 pick in the June 26 NBA Draft.

    But Yao's contract with his Chinese club, the Shanghai Sharks, and the Chinese government will have whichever NBA team that signs him jumping through the same hoops that took nearly three years to clear for him to get permission to enter the draft.

    Yao will have to get nine entities sign his deal before he can play, according to Sharks general manager Li Yao Min.

    And he will have to give half of his NBA earnings to the Chinese government.

    That could make some NBA teams nervous about spending their first-round draft pick on Yao, says Dan Wasserman, a spokesman for the NBA players union.

    "It certainly throws up some red flags that the clubs have to evaluate, and very carefully so," Wasserman says. "Some clubs may not have as much expertise in dealing with foreign players and foreign entities, and they better get up on the curve quick if they're interested in Yao Ming."

    Yao has told Li he regrets not sticking to a three-way contract he signed in 1999 between himself, the Chinese government and agent Michael Coyne of Cleveland-based Evergreen Sports.

    That deal would have required Yao to hand over 33% of his NBA salary to Coyne, who would then have given 98% of that to various Chinese government entities. But if Yao had been in the NBA those three years, he would have pocketed a minimum of $850,000.

    The 33% to Coyne was called exorbitant by critics and competing agents, but it actually amounted to the agent receiving just 0.7% of Yao's salary. That's a pittance for a typical NBA agent and is far below the NBPA's maximum 4% take allowed for agents.

    Plus, the 32.3% for the Chinese government would have been less than its latest demand of 50%, encoded in a tax law regarding athletes playing in foreign leagues.

    Yao would have made at least $1.265 million, the minimum salaries for first-, second- and third-year players, of which his 67.7% would have been $856,405.

    Yao and his parents signed the deal with Coyne, which included the requisite Chinese government OKs, then reneged after lobbying by agent Bill Duffy of BDA Sports.

    Duffy, the agent for the Dallas Mavericks' Wang Zhizhi when Wang became the NBA's first Asian player last year, told Yao's family that Coyne's contract took advantage of them and would not be recognized by the NBA.

    "Mr. Yao Ming now feels that the contract three years ago was reasonable and regrets that he didn't take it," Li says. "As far as we know, the government will take much more under the new stipulation."

    Duffy was unavailable for comment. The agent is not officially involved with Yao, but his staff was in Chicago as Yao practiced. Li banned Yao from having any formal relationships with U.S. agents until the draft.

    The 1999 contract did have flaws, Wasserman says: Coyne was not a registered agent with the NBPA and paying 33% of a salary directly to an agent is not permitted regardless of what the agent does with the money.

    Still, Wasserman concedes, the deal could have been restructured to have Yao give his money directly to the Chinese government. And Coyne could have registered as an agent without much trouble.

    "People are starting to understand what happened and what I was trying to do," Coyne says.
     
  20. eattoomuch

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    is that a fact? on what ground or proof does this reporter give????

    did he say yao signed a deal with gov to give them 50%? or just his understanding of that 50% rumor flying around the net?
     

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