PG: Jay Williams SG: Ginobili SF: Butler PF: Gooden C: Ming No brainer here. Easy money. Second team: PG: Dickau SG: Wagner SF: Nachbar PF: Ryan Humphrey C: Hillario Third team: PG: Jaric SG: Jacobsen SF: Prince PF: Jefires C: Haislip
I hope with all my heart that Nachbar will beat out Butler for the first team. Then Boki can shout to the butler, "I am making all the lottery team other than the Rox pay!" I think Dunleavy will be at least on the third team, not Jacobsen.
I wouldn't say the SG and PF are a "no brainer" to make the All-Rookie team. Ginobili has age and experience on his side but I think Dajuan Wagner stands a much better chance of making this team and of ROY than probably any other rookie right now. Gooden is very good but so is Amare Stoudamire, so I wouldn't consider him a lock. I am not saying that this team has no chance of being All-Rookie, but I wouldn't call them a "no brainer". My list: 1st team: G-Wagner G-Ginobilli F-Stoudamire F-Gooden C-Ming 2nd team: G-Williams G-Rush F-Butler F-Dunleavy C-Hilario or Borchardt if healthy ROY-Wagner
First team: G Williams G Wagner F Butler F Gooden C Yao Second team: G Jaric G Ginobili F Dunleavy F Stoudamire C Hilario Third team: G Dickau G Rush F Nachbar F Wilcox C Borchardt
see this thread: http://bbs.clutchcity.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40182 3. Emmanuel Ginobili, SG, Argentina NBA Team: Spurs The Skinny: How confident are the Spurs in Ginobili? They went ahead and shipped off Antonio Daniels to make sure that Ginobili, a former Euroleague MVP, gets plenty of minutes this season. Ginobili is already off to a red-hot start in exhibition play. He led Argentina to 3-0 record in the Pistons International Classic over the weekend. He averaged a sizzling 20 points on 24 of 31 shooting for the tournament and grabbed MVP honors. Argentina doesn't meet the U.S. in Round 1, but they should meet sometime in Round 2. They are considered, along with Yugoslavia, to have the best chance at medaling.
Hey Shaqhater, I have the exact same first and second teams! Good call. You must be really smart. I think the dark horses are Wilcox and Nachbar. They could show up on that first team depending on Minutes and how well they cope. But they have the talent to be there.
Hmmm. I didn't know being on any of the Rookie teams made you a superstar. You're a troll, and an unwanted one at that.
And suddenly Jay Williams, Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry became superstars... Nachbar is going to be good. Explosive perimeter players -especially 6'8" natural small forwards - are in high demand in the NBA because of the contracted three-point line. Undersized lead guards (OK, I concede Jay Williams is really, really good), rail-thin centers with no post moves (compared to Brand) and raw high-school big men aren't. If Nachbar can draw contact and shoot in traffic - and even show some creativity when he gets inside - he'll be a consistent option. (Sorry, just had to rip the Bulls because the forum seems to be inundated with their fans
You can say what you want, but I have seen Nachbar play and you haven't. I thought you know your team a little better. Nachbar is 8th or 9th best player on that non-playoff team. There is no way he beats out Rice in his rookie season for that starting spot, Griffin, Kenny Thomas are already counting on that minutes. He won't see much behind Mobley, so he'll play 12-15 mins per game. Of chorse, I saw Jay Williams play only 30something seconds yesterday but I can read the reports on Internet and I know he's pretty good. Don't you start another war with me again, to please you I will go on record for this one ... Yao Ming will be good, not like Jay, but I base my opinion on the fact that Jerry Krause actualy loved that kid. That is it for now.
I also want to point your eyes to this Marko Jaric kid. As I saw what is going on on this board, people labeling him like a European star PG of the future .... oh, they were so wrong. I hope you follow him on this world tournament. He is nothing more than Kevin Ollie if you ask me. Scoring little less than 20 ppg doesn't make you a NBA player. Even if it happened in Italy.
LOL!!! Yeah, and look at the powerhouse teams Krause has built since he lost his franchise player! That's a good one, sheep boy!
roydelton,your team has some good players but they are also a non-playoff team.Two seasons ago the Rockets won 45 games unlike the Bulls which have been winning only a handful of games for the last few years although I expect them to win around 35 games this year.
To Behad - About Krause - At least he " did you a favor ", re-signed Pippen for $67.2M for 5 years and traded that deal to your genius GM, while getting back Roy Rogers (who was in last year of his deal) and some second-round pick. Mark Bryant, Hersey Hawkins and others with similar contracts were brought in that year, because we were clearing some cap space. One year after CD tried to bail himself out of that situation, and brought 6 players or 1 player (Cato, who was awarded with $7M a year just after 2 preseason games, which turned to be his best 2 as a Rocket ever) At least Krause has shown me, that he handles contracts carefully. We didn't signed McGrady or Jones or Tim Thomas in 2000, but with Orlando, Miami and Milwaukee in the mix, I doubt Houston would have either. To Saleem - You are actualy a smart fan. That 45 wins were long two years ago. I don't know now with this better team of yours, you can't even come close to that number. Anyway, 45 wins were only the 9th best record back than, so ... I agree on your predicition about the Bulls, I'll go with 35 also.
It doesn't matter, because NO ONE is going to sign with the Bulls. They didn't in 2000, they didn't in 2001, and they haven't this season. Stop trying to delude yourself with the mystique of the past and open your eyes to the present, a crappy Bulls team that is in rebuilding mode. Krause is no expert on anything except eating. Trust his opinion there if you want, but to think he's a great basketball mind is absurd. As for previous posts....I'd love to know where you saw Nachbar and Jaric. I don't recall them being on TV recently in the US, so, pray tell - what makes you such an expert on him sheep boy?
Krause didn't pull off anything special with Pippen. Roy Rogers made like 900K. It was purely to get Pippen more money. He got himself an extra 2nd round pick. Whooptee-freaking-doo. As far as his contracts go, he offered big money to Thomas, and was shot down. He offered it to Jones and was stood up. Didn't he offer the money to Rice too? He ended paying Ron Mercer, now there's your high quality signing. MJ is gone. Players aren't flocking to Chicago. They ARE coming to Houston-notice Shandon signed here under market, MoT took the small MCE to come here, and Rashard would be here if we had cap space. Huh? right. The differences between this year's team and the 45 win team of 2 years ago. Walt Williams Shandn Andersn Hakeem Olajuwon have been replaced by Glen Rice Eddie Griffin Bostjan Nachbar Yao Ming plus improvements from Cat, and Kenny Thomas Last year, we were decimated by injuries to Francis, Taylor, Rice, Walt, and other scattered injuries Notice the difference in how the nucleus of each team was acquired. The Rockets acquired Francis through smart drafting and development that led to expendable players (Dickerson, Harrington) The Rockets got Griffin by stockpiling picks from the past (an extra first from Orlando via Maclean, and an extra first from the Collier trade), and being able to cash in. The Rockets got Ming through a season of injuries and misfortune, and then got lucky. The Bulls sucked, and deservingly got Brand. Then they traded a 23 year old 20-10 PF for a teenager, and drafted another, basically guaranteeing them into crapdom to land Jay Williams. I'll take my GM going to put a good team together every year over one that purposefully throws his team into the toilet to try and land a pick. PS--Your opinion of foreign players has NO validity on CC.net. Dragan Tarlac, need I say more?
