cuz he doesnt have the leadership qualities or the years of veteran experience and guidance under his belt. plus hes a rookie. ------------------ --TEX
I'd venture to say Collier has a Vlade's mobility. Maybe not a young Vlade's, but maybe the Vlade's of about 3 years ago? Collier hustles, maybe not as much as Vlade, but close. Salsa-Collier is a MUCH better boarder than Smits, twice as mobile, and has 3 point range. ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
Who outside of Webber is going to be a free-agent that can make an immediate impact next year? Dikembe Mutombo who will be 35. Patrick Ewing who is winding down his career. ------------------ We need some meat in the post and I don't mean Brian Grant! [This message has been edited by RocketsPimp (edited July 01, 2000).]
Michael Finley. Anyone who signs a 1 year contract. The Pasty Gangsta (I'm sure we can bring him out of retirement ) Jamal Mashburn Obinna Ekezie Arvydas Sabonis and best of all- Zan Tabak ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
Collier/Vlade comparisons are in my opinion well dumb! Collier is NO WHERE near the passer vlade is Collier does not have the mobility of Vlade Collier does not have the toughness of Vlade Collier does not have the leadership of Vlade Collier does not have the locker room prescense of Vlade Collier does not hustle as much as Vlade Actually, the comparisons of Jason Collier to Vlade Divac are pretty accurate. They're not perfect comparisons but accurate. Mobility wise, they are both pretty similar (I think you are really underestimating Collier's footwork and lateral speed). They both have that smooth hook shot on offense, only difference is one is lefty, and the other is righty. They both have the ability to face defenders up on the offensive end and make a move. Defensively, they are both pretty similar, neither is a spectacular but solid. Divac has the big edge in terms of passing ability, but Collier has the edge in terms of shooting range as he has legit NBA 3 pt range while Divac is more of the 18 ft type. Rebounding wise, they are about the same, and I could see Collier possibly being a little better down the line. I was really impressed at how well he crashes the boards. It is a pretty good comparison imho. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
Thinking about Francis and Webber on the same squad is downright scary. Calling that duo a highlight reel would be an understatement. But seriously, I think I recall Webber having kind words about the Rockets throughout his career. Didn't he pick us to repeat back in '95? So it's not like he'd be against coming here... Anyway, I agree with the Webber-hopefuls; if there's any way to help free up cap space(outside of taking away Dream's last hurrah) and increase the likelihood of landing him, we should definitely plan ahead and get the deals done. So... does Massenburg's contract expire after this upcoming season? That'd give us an opening at power forward and a little change to put in the Weber fund. Every little bit will help. ------------------ WE WILL WATCH THEM FALL... next year, at least.
Antisonic, Man it has been a while since I have seen one of your posts. Where you been??? Regarding Massenburg. Is this guy part of the Rockets plans. His name has not been mentioned recently. So I am curious will he be part of the Rockets next season. Also can someone fill me in regarding his contract status. I thought he was a free agent this season? ------------------ Vice President of the Austin Croshere fan club.
Dream 34 - Massenburg is a FA this year. The ONLY way we can get Rashard Lewis is if he forces a sign & trade. Its possible but highly unlikely. As far as I can tell, my page is accurate in terms of all the players listed that have been cut - Maloney is the only one still under contract and rumors last year were that he accepted a buy out over fewer years. I have updated the spreadsheet to reflect Collier, Langhi, future first round picks etc but I haven't uploaded it yet. Hopefully on Monday . I was thinking about including some info on draft picks we possess/owe other teams as well. I know most of them but if you guys can email me post what you know it would be helpful. ------------------ http://rocketdavo.tripod.com
This cap clearing stuff makes a lot of good sense. Let's say you strike out on Webber totally. Its not like this was a wasted effort because having that type of cap room gives you a ton of flexibility in trades as you can take on salaried players for picks and such. This is how the Clippers took on all that salary from Orlando on draft day. I like Walt Williams as a player but personally think he is way overpaid esp when his salary JUMPS to 6.3 mil. If the Rockets can move him for a FA to be in '01 I say they go for it. It really does not matter to me who starts at the SF spot this yr as its not like they are winning a championship. This is another development year for the young guys then maybe in 2002 they can start making a serious move. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net [This message has been edited by MManal (edited July 01, 2000).] [This message has been edited by MManal (edited July 01, 2000).]
Plus, it would seem like: Lightspeed Bullard Langhi Anderson + Mobley could somehow split that time up (SF) equitably. ------------------ no fat chicks
Webber has said how much he loves playing next to Vlade Divac. Now who in this past draft has been compared to Divac the most? Jason Collier.
Id like to begin clearing cap room now. i love walt too but his salary is just so high. id rather see us get rashard right now somehow. i dont know how they would do it but the rockets never cease to amaze me in the free agent market. if we got of rid of walt it opens it up for a SF who wants to start. if you asked me the rockets do need one more star. id much rather have taht start at the SF position. id like guys like collier, cato, etc. to average say 13-15 pts./ 9 RB each and play D, and have our SF averaged 20 something points. the reason i say this is because having a big low post scorer might disrupt our guard oriented offense. i dont think webber will leave simply because SAC has been the team that has been loyal and has taken a chance with him. he likes the coach too. i think SAC is gonna keep him in my 2cents. just because a team has lots of talent taht doesnt make him a lock to play for us. look at mcydyess back a few years. thats why i'd like to clear space for rashard. he seems to want to play here and not just for the $$$$. if it means walt and a few others go well fine. i wanna see him in rockets pajamas and i have a hunch one day he will. ------------------ --TEX
and Collier's like 12 years younger. Francis is twice the PG Jason Williams is. Mobley or Shandon is twice the SG Nick Anderson is. Kenny Thomas is a better undersized PF than Corliss Williamson j/k and add Cato, and 4 draft picks to the mix. If Webber signs here, I smell a contender. Achebe-The Rockets also could throw Cato-Collier-Thomas on the floor. Somewhere on another thread, someone mentioned Dan Marjele, that'd also be possible: Thunder Dan makes 4.4 million next year, easily within 85% of Walt's 4.5 million. There's rumors of Miami trading Marjele in a three way to Chicago, so they can choose not to take his option (clearing cap space), and then him signing back with Miami. I wonder if they'd do it with us, for Walt..... ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
TexasSalsa, would it be possible to resign mobley for some exception, then dump walt (sorry wiz) and drew for a future mid round draft pick, and try for lewis? I'm not sure if your original question ever got answered, so let me give it a shot: Even if we dumped some $4.2M+ in salary, that doesn't mean that we'd have cap space to sign Lewis. We're pretty far over the cap, so chopping of that amount would still leave us over the cap. In order to free up that kind of money, we'd need to free: (Houston's payroll - salary cap) + $4.2M That's a whole lot of money and it won't happen. The only way we can get Lewis or Croshere is if their current teams are convinced that they are going to sign with another team and they do a sign n' trade with us. I personlly don't think that will happen, but it's possible. ------------------
