ESPN Broussard: Houston has a very good chance at Bosh

Because if he doesn't want to come here, he won't....he is a FREE agent, he gets to choose.

DD

 

Chicago and Miami may not have as much to offer but they can offer one thing the Rockets cant, cap space in the form of a huge trade exception, and in Miami's case, the return of toronto's 1st round pick, which will almost be a guaranteed early lottery pick next season.

Furthermore DM and Colangelo CANNOT force Bosh to go to Houston if he doesnt want to. Colangelo isnt going to refuse to sign and trade with teams like dallas/san Antonio/chicago or miami just so for the Houston's package (which if it doesnt include aaron brooks isnt anything special).

Can Houston get bosh? Sure, if he wants to join the Rockets! Does he want to join the Rockets? Unlike his interest in Miami/Chicago and even the crappy Knicks Bosh has yet to reveal his desire/interest in joining the rockets.

 

Umm he has made it clear that he wants the 6 yr deal. The general rule of thumb -- follow the money.

Toronto doesn't want Beasley or Deng. Chicago isn't going to include Noah and has the option to sign other power forwards outright without giving up any assets (Boozer/Lee).

Let's see if Miami can come up with a better offer than the Rockets. Maybe they can. I doubt it though.

 

Agreed, as a general rule.

Actually none of us know what Toronto wants or doesn't want, because tons has been reported, remember that they had a S&T deal in place with Toronto? That was reported, and so much more.

Honestly, we are all in the dark here, and I contend that if it comes to blinking, it will be Toronto that does it.

If Bosh wants to go to Miami, I would bet Toronto finds SOMETHING they can live with, that is the way it has worked in every former FA situation I can think of.

Can you guys think of ONE situation where the athletes main choice didn't happen and he ended up signing somewhere else he really didn't want to?

DD

 

I agree Toronto will blink and that's what Morey is counting on. Bosh has to make a choice,he wants to have his cake and eat it too.

 

Colangelo isn't a dummy. Why would he find a deal he can just "live with"? Bosh showed his cards and made it clear that he wants the 130.

A deal with Miami won't be complete until it's on par or def better than ours.

 

It's all up to Toronto now. If Toronto is determined to reject Miami's offer (because they know Bosh wants a S&T), we still have a chance.

 

Agreed. At the end of the day, I think Morey will say that Toronto wanted too much and Houston fans will say that Bosh is a scrub.

 

And he can get a 6yr max deal in a snt with Chicago/Miami as well as Dallas/SanAntonio/Rockets/lakers etc.

If i'm Toronto I wouldnt take Deng or Beasley (maybe beasley since he's young and not expensive), just as I wouldnt take a snt Scola or Ariza, because I'd rather have cap space than expenisve long term contract of mediocre players. Instead Toronto can take Taj gibson and the 2011 1st round pick of chicago and the bobcats 2011 1st rounder which chicago owns
as well as a huge trade exception in the form of Bosh's contract.

Likewise toronto can get two 2011 1st rounder from miami (toronto's 2011 and miami's both belonging to the heat) as well as the cap space. Furthermore an advantage in trading with teams like Miami, Chicago and Dallas is they can also see if they can ship turkoglu's contract along with Bosh, thereby clearing 50 million dollar, because those three teams have the cap space or expiring non guaranteed contract in dallas's case to make it possible. Short of offering Aaron Brooks, the rockets have little to match that.

 

Well yeah. Thats what I am afraid of that Toronto continues to be a horrible franchise and instead of thinking about their own best interests cave and give Bosh his destintation of choice while they take back the garbage deals from Miami or Chicago. That way we could all laugh at them and yet it hurts us a little as well. Not so much though for us because we will still have all of those draft picks and young players or starters with ending contracts that are good that they missed out on. I am counting on them being smart this time and Bosh wising up about this silly fantasy trio and realize the Rockets for waht they are and what those others teams are not. We are actual Championship contenders with him and Miami certainly is not and Chicago probably isnt against the Magic or Celtics either still.

 

What exactly are the deals that you're calling garbage? What is the Rockets deal on the table? You have no clue, just like everybody else.

 

Deng's contract is crazy stupid. Beasley is a certified pothead and surp sippa (sprite bottle in the pic?)..not that there's anything wrong with that but he's a bust so far. Plus, there was that depression talk.

I haven't heard much about Dallas/SA in the mix so I won't comment on them. Let's see what happens. The Lakers were dismissed in the Bosh sweepstakes a while back.

 

I know that the potential deals we could offer and theirs makes theirs garbage in comparison of what they could possibly offer. I know if Morey wanted to up the pot their deals would all be garbage regarless of what they offer unless the gut their teams like including Noah to Toronto to help Toronto get a better deal. They have no such ability.

 

If i was Toronto I would demand Noah in a trade for Bosh. Thats the only thing wortyhwhile if they want that team to take on Dengs horrible contract to take their star away? Then they need to give them back a young player with promise too. Thats what io would ask if i was a smart Toronto team. I would make it mandatory to finish the deal by including Noah.

 

Of course Toronto likes and wants Noah. Chicago though has been reluctant to include him in S&Ts. He is one of their selling points[along with Rose] to Bosh, LeBron, Wade.

 

It could just be posturing, but there was talk a couple days ago that Toronto was unwilling to deal with Miami, a. because they didnt like anything they have to offer and b. they werent pleased with Wade's contact with Bosh prior to FA and that they considered it tampering. Just thougt I would put it out there.

 

Which is the POINT! Unless they want to force Chicago to take turkoglu, they dont have to take Beasley or Deng!

Just curious, what do you think the Rocket offer to toronto consist of?

 

Old news and posturing indeed.

 

So you are going on what you "think" Colangelo will or won't do?

Sorry, I am just waiting on Chris to make up his mind...I don't think Toronto can force him into anything...if he doesn't want to come.

DD

 

Oh snap. I apologize. Misread your post :grin:

And I'm not sure but I suspect it's better than what they're currently offering.

What he won't do is take a lesser offer than what the Rockets are willing to give him. He is just like DM. Would DM simply take whatever he could get?