So with all the threads of getting Senor Turtle head there is talk that the package we put out there is Scola, Battier, and Ariza for him. If that is the case it brings up a question, who starts at the 3? This may have been addressed in another thread but I have a question. Do you think our office is so high on Patterson that they will start him at the 3? He is 6'8" with handles and he can shoot the 3 ball. More importantly he is going to be a better defender his rookie year than C-Bud will be in his sophomore year. With the potential he has maybe they take a risk and hand him the 3 spot. Then as it seems we go after Miller our line up would then be as follows, which is a huge starting 5 with still a dam good bench. Brooks/Lowry Martin/Taylor Patterson/Budinger (DD go on and hate ) Bosh/Hill/Jefferies Yao/Miller/Hayes/Andersen
No, Patterson is not a three. He will be a four here. And if those three are moved which won't happen all together if they are, there will be another move to fill in that gap at the 3.
I really dont think he is gonna be limited to the 4 he is super athletic and with the size of the nba today if he can defend the 3 which I think he can, he will spend some time at that position.
Patterson is not a three, and for sure not starting at the three. ...and you're over-rating his shooting range. He was a decent three point shooter at the college range at 35% on not a large amount of attempts. Though, the way he approved his range from his Freshman year to his Junior year, it's encouraging he could one day be a threat from out there.
He can't defend the 3. He had trouble guarding perimeter players in college. He has a 4 or 5 mentality.
Wade/Bosh to Chi ignores major issue: doing 2 S&Ts. Someone would have to take Deng's deal. No one will. Tor wants picks/trade exception. http://twitter.com/RicBucher
It seems like Morey had predicted all this free agency movement (certain teams not being able to get who they want, how lesser FA shake out) long ahead of time and things are just falling like dominoes into place for his master plan. Morey is a genius When Patterson was drafted, his biggest weakness according to the ESPN scouting report was his Ball-handling. So, no, I don't think he has the handles to play 3. Then again, neither does Ariza. But I don't think starting a rookie, out of position no less, is such a good idea.
For those saying Chi can S&T for 1 and sign other outright: forget it. Neither Bosh nor Wade is taking less than 6 yr, $120m. Nor wd you. http://twitter.com/RicBucher
Who the **** cares? We would've just landed CHRIS BOSH! Morey can grab capable starting wing players in his sleep. We have a MLE, the Knicks picks, and still more assets than the likes of the Knicks or the Bulls. Obviously, one can deduce that our next SF would be Spoiler
I think this has been said before, but it's worth reiterating. If those 3 players are who we are offering, it would be Scola and one of Ariza or Battier. Scola+Ariza and Scola+Battier would be enough to match the salary Bosh would get if he were to come here. Thus, whoever is left would probably start (if Ariza is traded, I think there might be a slight chance that Bud starts).
I just came to another realization. Maybe this whole process is being held up by the Rockets themselves? Not just Toronto and the sign and trades but the value of the Rockets Knicks picks... This is what I am saying.... The Knicks picks value will only be set after Amare signs and some others commit to the Knicks(Lebron maybe?). Meaning anything we offer another team involving the Knicks picks would probably have the Raptors waiting to see how valuable they are and how much they can ask for if they are included in a deal? Rockets value is being set right now with Knicks moves in free agency so maybe the sign and trade deals are waiting on this to play out too among other things?
Great thought it makes alot of sense now that Amare is supposedly a done deal we will hear more. With the assets we have all values are known except for those.
Why do we keep talking about Scola being a part of the trade when that is actually impossible? Free agents cannot be traded with other players. It's why Toronto isn't trying to get people to take Turkoglu in sign and trade scenarios.
Turkoglu isnt a free agent and Im sure Toronto would love to dish him off in a sign and trade....just not that easy to find someone willing to take him on. And Scola can be traded if he does a sign and trade as well...and he agrees to go to Toronto.
Lost here, why do I hear nothing about Al Jefferson and Danny Granger!?!?! These guys are complete STUDS and could both be added for what we might give up for Bosh.... Jefferson/Granger >>>>> Bosh
He played at the 4 throughout his college career, so I don't think he can adapt to the 3 right aways, at least he has to spend some time at the bench behind somebody at that position, but still I think Rick is going to play at the 4.
Sorry, I wasn't specific. What I mean is that they cannot bundle another player with Bosh, much like we can't bundle another player with Scola.
there is no way in hell we trade both battier and ariza. then we have no defense. theres a bigger chance we trade battier than ariza since ariza can still grow and is still young. as for battier, he aint getting any younger. and why the fuuuuuux woul you put patterson at the 3? why? why?
