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Miami and Chicago top Toronto's list of 6 sign and trade options for Bosh

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Egghead, Jul 4, 2010.

  1. Egghead

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    The Toronto Raptors are growing tired of playing the Chris Bosh waiting game, but that doesn't mean they won't cooperate in the sign-and-trade deal he covets.

    So long as he and his two pals -- LeBron James and Dwyane Wade -- make up their minds relatively soon.

    A source close to the situation told FanHouse the Raptors are becoming "less enthusiastic" about doing the deal that would give Bosh the sixth year and additional $29.4 million on his maximum contract, but they certainly haven't stopped working toward that end. The Raptors, who have fielded calls from "half the league," the source says, currently have six sign-and-trade proposals ready to be executed. Offers from Miami and Chicago, according to the source, are being more heavily considered than the rest.

    "(Miami and Chicago) are more in the game," the source said.

    The lay of that land offers insight into Bosh's thinking, as Toronto must be aware of his ever-changing intentions before they are able to proceed. The Bulls have the assets to get the deal done, but Miami, which has only Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers on contract for next season, would have to offer an enticing package of draft picks to go along with the compulsory hefty trade exception for the Raptors to agree.

    Yet in order to pull off the free agency coup of bringing Bosh, James and Wade to South Beach, the Raptors would have to be willing to take back the expiring $4.9 million contract of Beasley in order for all three to get their desired maximum deals. If only Bosh, James and Wade would make up their minds.

    "(The Raptors) are hanging on what those three decide to do," the source said. "This thing is a spectacle."

    Yet according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer's Brian Windhorst, James' decision -- otherwise known as the first domino -- won't come until July 7. Free agents can't formally sign until July 8. And with every day, the chances of Bosh securing the most money possible are minimized.
     
  2. Egghead

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  3. Carl Herrera

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    Sounds like Toronto is trying to get other teams to up their offer. Which is what they should be doing.
     
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    If what the Rockets are offering them Ariza, Battier, Scola for Bosh I would not be that high into our offer either. Those 3 guys are only role players, Battier is passed his prime. Ariza and Scola are above average role players. None of those players are Rockets players are really any of our assets.
     
  5. Madeinchin4

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    who can the Heat offer?
     
  6. vinsensual

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    They just embarrassingly overpaid Turkoglu. The next logical step would be wanting Beasley.
     
  7. Cannonball

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    Exactly. This report really doesn't make all that much sense. Maybe it's something Toronto leaked to drive up offers from teams that have more assets (like Houston).

    Of course, the Raptors ultimately don't get to choose who they do a sign and trade with. They can elect to not do one but they can't sign and trade Bosh to a team he doesn't want to go to. So them preferring one deal over another really doesn't matter all that much.
     
  8. DCHAMP

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    people dont get too worried about this a source can be anybody for all we know like a little kid the media just wants something to write about ..dont read to much into this there has been so many rumors and possibly 90 percent arent true
     
  9. Major

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    Except the teams aren't really bidding against each other. This isn't Bosh signing with Toronto and then them shipping him to whoever offers the most. This is Bosh picking where he wants to go and then having a trade with that team that is acceptable to Toronto. There's no reason here for teams to up their offers to beat out other teams.
     
  10. RV6

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    No suprise here...those are his first two options, as long as he's joining wade or lebron there.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    If Toronto allows Miami all three superstars
    why the hell would they want miami's picks???
    They will be late 20s for the next 5 yrs

    Rocket River
     
  12. Cannonball

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    Toronto has more leverage with us than other teams. If Bosh chose to come here but Toronto liked other sign and trade offers more than ours, they could refuse to do a sign and trade to Houston which would force Bosh to choose another destination since there would be no other way for him to come here. And Bosh's #2 choice could be offering a better deal than us.

    Other teams don't necessarily have to worry about that because if Bosh really wanted to go to Chicago or Miami, he could just sign there outright. If the Raptors refused to do a sign and trade to Chicago, he could go there anyway. If they refused a sign and trade to Houston, Bosh would have to choose somewhere else.

    So if Toronto really did get better offers from Miami and/or Chicago, they could refuse to do a sign and trade in an effort to force Bosh to accept a deal that is more to their liking.
     
  13. jason3333

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    this is crap, if anyone believes this then they believe that pigs fly and no this is not burger king!
     
  14. leebigez

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    If i were bosh, i would sign with chicago. Great young pg, very consistent sf, up and coming center, and great fans who sellout the arena every night.
     
  15. Sooner423

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    Doesn't really matter which offer they like best. Bosh has to want to go there.
     
  16. thetatomatis

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    I dont see how those deals are better. I guess in torontos way of thinking which is backwards it sounds good to them? Oh well mediocre decision makers usually make mediocre decisions consistantly.
     
  17. Corpusfan

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    It does matter somewhat, and the Raptors do have some power in this situation, if Bosh wants his max money. Them preferring one deal over another does matter. Bosh also has some power in that he doesn't have to go to a team if he doesn't want to. Both parties have some power over the other, over the situation, because both have to agree to the deal.
     
  18. purplefever

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    Nothing but picks is what Toronto would prefer. That's the point that some people are forgetting - Toronto would rather get back nothing and a large TPE than a mish mash of role players or contracts to be stuck with.

    Miami has Toronto's own pick from the Jermaine Oneal trade. I would think that BC is fine with just that, or if Beasley is included, the addition of Miami's own pick. He would then look to deal Beasley elsewhere.

    Any team offering contracts like Beasley, Ariza or Deng is likely being told to find a 3rd team to send those players to, either as a salary dump (for Miami's benefit) or prospects/picks (for Toronto's benefit).

    Same thing with Scola. If Houston has to include him to make salaries work, then he'll be going to a 3rd team - the problem is that he probably has to wait until guys like Boozer and Lee commit somewhere. Who has shown interest?
     
  19. Corpusfan

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    We shouldn't put too much creedence in this report. It's just one unnnamed source, in a constantly evolving situation, in which the team is likely to be making certain statements as a way of driving up the offers it's receiving.
     
  20. ryano2009

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    Really ..?? Beasley and Chalmers..?? wow, I don't even know how they pick those 2 guys over our offer, I think Bosh wants to go to Miami and that's the bottom line...
     

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