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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Jun 30, 2010.

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  1. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

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    Getting a backup for Yao would make us threat to contend the title.
     
  2. meh

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    With Bosh & no true backup center, the Rockets will compete for a championship.
    With no Bosh & true backup center, the Rockets will be a 1st or 2nd round exit.
    With Yao injured & true backup center, the Rockets will be a lottery team
    With Yao healthy & no true backup center, the Rockets will likely be a 1st or 2nd round exit.

    But I'm glad you think our biggest area of need isn't a major talent upgrade, but a hypothetical backup center that may or may not exist.

    And I won't even get into the whole "Morey said Jordan Hill is a PF/C" that people like to ignore.
     
  3. rpr52121

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    Here are the Free Agent and Restricted Free Agent Centers available. Take your pick...

    Brendan Haywood
    Age: 30 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 9.1 ppg, 56.2% FG, 9.3 rpg, 2.0 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Shaquille O'Neal
    Age: 38 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 12.0 ppg, 56.6% FG, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    Age: 35 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 7.4 ppg, 44.3% FG, 5.4 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Brad Miller
    Age: 34 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 8.8 ppg, 43.0% FG, 4.9 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Jermaine O'Neal
    Age: 31 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 13.6 ppg, 52.9% FG, 6.9 rpg, 1.4 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Channing Frye
    Age: 27 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 11.2 ppg, 45.1% FG, 43.9% 3PT, 5.3 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Joel Anthony
    Age: 27 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.7 ppg, 47.8% FG, 3.1 rpg, 1.4 bpg
    Status: Restricted

    Tony Battie
    Age: 34 | Position: F-C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.4 ppg, 35.0% FG, 1.5 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Josh Boone
    Age: 25 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 4.0 ppg, 52.5% FG, 5.0 rpg
    Status: Restricted

    Primoz Brezec
    Age: 30 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 0.9 ppg, 34.6% FG, 1.2 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Kwame Brown
    Age: 28 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.3 ppg, 50.0% FG, 3.7 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Jarron Collins
    Age: 31 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 1.0 ppg, 38.7% FG, 1.8 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Jason Collins
    Age: 31 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 0.7 ppg, 34.8% FG, 0.6 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Francisco Elson
    Age: 34 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 1.0 ppg, 33.3% FG, 1.2 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Kyrylo Fesenko
    Age: 23 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.6 ppg, 54.7% FG, 1.8 rpg
    Status: Restricted

    Adonal Foyle
    Age: 35 | Position: C
    '08-09 Stats: 1.7 ppg, 63.6% FG, 2.6 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Aaron Gray
    Age: 25 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.3 ppg, 51.2% FG, 3.3 rpg
    Status: Restricted

    Steven Hunter
    Age: 28 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.5 ppg, 39.5% FG, 2.0 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Nathan Jawai
    Age: 23 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.2 ppg, 44.1% FG, 2.7 rpg
    Status: Restricted

    Jamaal Magloire
    Age: 32 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.1 ppg, 50.0% FG, 3.4 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Sean Marks
    Age: 34 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 0.7 ppg, 50.0% FG, 1.6 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    D.J. Mbenga
    Age: 29 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.1 ppg, 46.6% FG, 1.8 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Darko Milicic
    Age: 25 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 6.7 ppg, 49.0% FG, 4.7 rpg, 1.1 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Fabricio Oberto
    Age: 35 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 1.5 ppg, 62.5% FG, 1.8 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Patrick O'Bryant
    Age: 24 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 1.7 ppg, 53.3% FG, 1.0 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Johan Petro
    Age: 24 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.4 ppg, 53.5% FG, 3.6 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Josh Powell
    Age: 27 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 2.7 ppg, 36.6% FG, 1.8 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Theo Ratliff
    Age: 37 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.6 ppg, 46.1% FG, 3.2 rpg, 1.2 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Brian Skinner
    Age: 34 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 1.6 ppg, 40.0% FG, 1.7 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Etan Thomas
    Age: 32 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.3 ppg, 45.6% FG, 2.8 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Kurt Thomas
    Age: 37 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 3.0 ppg, 47.6% FG, 4.2 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Anthony Tolliver
    Age: 25 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 11.7 ppg, 43.0% FG, 7.0 rpg
    Status: Unrestricted

    Ben Wallace
    Age: 35 | Position: C
    '09-10 Stats: 5.5 ppg, 54.1% FG, 8.7 rpg, 1.2 bpg
    Status: Unrestricted
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    Usually when people say PF/C, the true position is the 1st one mentioned.
     
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    if rockets could get Bosh, he could play back up center. hes got the length to play center.
     
  6. steddinotayto

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    I think Josh Boone would be a good sign.
     
  7. slpntz

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    Question of the year? Really?
     
  8. meh

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    lolwut!?
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    Wow, talk about a load of garbage.
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Well, at least question of the day. :(
     
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    That was precisely my point. And I'm not sure I want to trade one of our assets for a back up true Center.
     
  12. Spooner

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    LOL!!! What are you talking about man?
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    For example: Jordan Hill would be a better PF than he would be a center because center is not his natural position, PF is. Same goes for Bosh, Amare and David Lee. All are PF who at some point played out of position at the 5.
     
  14. blunto

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    The reason we have least depth at center is because the entire league lacks depth at center. If you take a look around, you'd see that you don't necessarily need a "true center" on the floor at all times in order to be successful in this league. Examples:

    True Centers, 2010 Champions
    - Andrew Bynum (injured and largely ineffective in the playoffs)
    - DJ Mbenga
    *Combined MPG during the playoffs: 28.8

    True Centers, 2010 Runners Up
    - Kendrick Perkins
    *MPG during playoffs: 25.0

    If the Rockets can get 25 MPG out of Yao, do we really need another "true center" to cover for him while he's on the bench? Our guys playing F/C will simply be matching up against other F/Cs. Of course, some teams may create match-up problems at this position, but it hardly seems to be our most glaring weakness.
     
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    You are obviously mistaken. Who needs Bosh or Lebron or Wade when you can have a "true backup center"? If you don't see the logic in that, then you obviously don't know basketball. ;)

    Agreed, why people think of me as PF/C is beyond me. Thank god there's one person who understands that I can't do jack as a center. Because I'm a PF.

    Signed,
    "PF/I'm not really a C" Tim Duncan.
     
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    touche' :rolleyes:
     
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    I cannot tell the difference between a center and a power forward. It seems like both play near the rim and there are cases where both shoot 3s. Guys who play in these positions are about the same height too. So what the heck is a true center?

    While I'm on the subject, it seems to me point guard is the only position with a definitive role of primarily distributing the ball.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    People,don't make this harder than it should be. You all know what i mean. Get us another 7ft center as a backup, not another undersized 6'10 sometime center. Bosh even mentioned that his position is not the 5, its the 4. Meaning he doesn't like playing the 5, but thats wat we need. :confused:
     
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    I'm trying to figure out what world you live in.
    Or what you are smoking.

    Either way, I'm sure you must be having a great time.
     
  20. blunto

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    Word.

    It's possible that people who are arguing for a backup center might be better suited in arguing for upgrading our interior defensive presence, in general, when Yao isn't on the floor. However, that does not necessarily mean we need a backup "true center." Houston is a top 5 defensive team over the past six seasons which we've had Yao*. (And yeah, Deke contributed to that.) Last season without him? 17.

    It's possible that the reason Morey is pursuing Bosh is because, of all of the elite, all-star guys available, he is the one who can allow us to keep a top defensive unit on the floor when Yao isn't in. Anybody remember Bosh's performance in the '08 Olympics? He seemed much more effective than future DPOY Dwight Howard, and I think the coaching staff agreed. Nobody knows how much PT with the Rockets Yao will get over the next few years, and Bosh is an interior defensive presence moving beyond the Yao years.

    While that makes sense intuitively, my JCDenton-style "advanced statistical analysis" doesn't back up my argument. A Bosh-led Toronto with an average rank of 21.5 over the past six seasons**. I'd love to see the Rockets' advanced stats on this.

    *DEF EFF, Past 6 seasons with Yao:
    4, 2, 4, 9, 7, 5

    *DEF EFF, Past 6 seasons with Bosh:
    30, 22, 13, 13, 28, 23
     

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