You call all of these people out on the forums, yet you are a scrub yourself. Have fun being a hypocrite
Why in the hell would we give up that much? Brooks - Could reach all-star status sometime in the near future. Martin - Extremely gifted offensive player. Hill - Hustle, effort, "huffort". Excellent rebounder, better than expected. Jeffries - ...draws excellent charges? Picks - Come on...
Yeah, I'm calling BS on this. (1) Randy Foye is a FREE AGENT. There's no way the Wizards can have a trade in place to move a guy with whom they haven't even negotiated a new contract. (2) The Wizards cannot even officially comment on acquiring Hinrich until July 8. I doubt they've already packed him. And you can't package a recently acquired (non-draft pick) player with other salaries for at least two months. Uh . . . BS. Big time.
I agree with everyone else - doesn't seem close to enough to be realistic. I understand NO wanting to cut salary ASAP, but I think they have to get more than just cap space for a franchise player. Any of these several teams with cap space can trade with NO and take on way more money. Seems like NO could also pick up some picks or young talent for a franchise freaking PG. This blows me away that Paul would go for a salary dump in the vein of Pau Gasol.
c'mon guys, do some homework! 1.) Peja's contract expires after this season, so, its no longer a "bad contract". only an expiring non-garantee contract would consider "better" than Peja's now 2.) Hornets' "bad contract": #1 Okafor #2 Posey 3.) Vince Carter has TWO years left on his contract, so NOT "expiring" I don't see how it make sense for the Hornets if it's true i hope DM at least try to offer our expiring contracts (Battier/Jefferies/Hayes) + Brooks + Hill + Knicks' pick for CP3/Okafor. Okafor's contract is ugly but we need a big to back up Yao anyway. and if we're gonna to spend our $$$ somewhere I'd spend it on a CP3 deal Yao Ming, Okafor, Anderson L. Scola, Patterson T. Ariza, Budinger K-Mart, (Fernandez?), Taylor C. Paul, Lowry
I was hearing the carl dukes espn radio show and they had mike james as a guess. mike james, as you all know, was a teamate of cp3 and he said he loved the city of houston to him.
The teams that have carried a large payroll in recent years (Lakers, Mavericks, Nuggets etc) would likely seek to take the entire Hornets package and cut Orlando out completely rather than help the Magic out by taking Okafor alone. If one of them would be the third team and take Okafor, they would look to extract a stiff price from Orlando. Dallas likely has little desire to help Orlando at all after the Gortat Free Agency last Summer. The teams that have been molding their rosters to have Cap Space this Summer would also probably have a similar philosophy of trying to take the entire Hornets package rather than be the third team and take Okafor. <hr> For an Okafor & Paul package Cleveland Is a mess. No idea what they are going to do. Orlando Big eyes, but unwilling to pay the price and carry Okafor on their roster. Atlanta No need for Okafor, but Paul would be entertaining with that team. Boston Has Rondo. They need to retool some, but it would be another bold move to do that much in the way of changes. Miami Will have Cap Space, but doubtful that Paul and Wade are a good fit. Milwaukee Small Market and has Bogut Charlotte Traded Okafor away and probably hoping for Chandler to leave as a Free Agent. Chicago Will have Cap Space, but they also have Rose and no need for Paul. Toronto No idea what they are doing. Until the Bosh situation resolves, they are unlikely to make any significant moves. Indiana Rumors that they are struggling financially. Doubtful that they would load up on salary. New York Perhaps a candidate if they are spurned by the top Free Agents. Detroit No idea on what the Pistons are doing. Philadelphia No idea what they are doing. They would like to move Brand, so probably not interested in acquiring Okafor. Washington Just drafted Wall and still have Arenas, thus no need for Paul. New Jersey Just drafted Favors and already have Lopez. Will call them a distant maybe. Lakers With Kobe and Fisher declining, Paul would be a help. The Lakers lack enough short term contracts to make a good deal from the Hornets POV, but LA might be able to come up with something if they really worked hard. Dallas Dampier + Kidd would be fairly close in the needed salary area, so call them a possible. Phoenix Still have Nash and also are thrifty with the payroll. A very distant maybe. Denver They have a somewhat favorable situation with current player contracts. What they are doing at the moment isn't getting them to the next level, so i would call them a possible. Utah Has Deron Williams Portland Roy had problems sharing with Miller, it could only be worse with Paul. Oklahoma City Has Westbrook and no pressing need for Paul. Houston Has been discussed already. Memphis A Small Market team with thrifty ways. If they could get Zach Randolph's contract voided, I could see them as a possible. Clippers Baron Davis still has several years left on his contract and probably limited demand for his services on another team. Golden State Rumored to be interested in moving salary rather than adding long term salary. Curry is the <i>Chosen One</i> and they want to move Monta Ellis. Sacramento Traded for Dalambert and drafted Cousins, thus very limited need for Okafor. Tyreke Evans would have to learn to share with Paul. Minnesota Looking to move Jefferson, but Okafor might be a bit better fit next to Love. Still it would be swapping a long term contract for another long term contract and that isn't the goal for the Hornets. <hr> Moving Okafor to a third team is going to be more difficult than the Orlando management and media realize.
It would be fun to watch, and they're not in the West, and if Wade gets some nice free agents to come play with in Miami there would be a really competitive Florida Rivalry... Alright, I approve, on the condition that we never have to go against them in the Finals.
If New Orleans was really desperate for cap relief, and if New York strikes out big on free agency, they could send the long despised Eddy Curry(who will expire after next season and is long hated by Knicks fans) he's salary matches with Okafor. Charlotte cannot receive Okafor in a trade due to some weird rule.
bwahahahahaha Talk about pipedream. Good luck finding a taker for Okafor without Paul attached in the same deal.
I agree 100%. The whole premise of "As long as we find a third team to take Okafor's contract, we good!" is ridiculous. The whole point of the deal for NOR is to dump Okafor's contract, which is SOOOO bad that NOR won't be able to find a taker for in exchange for preferably nothing or else expiring contracts unless they throw in a superstar in CP. ORL, it seems, is saying that they'lll gladly take CP, but they don't want Okafor's deal either. But they'll try to find a mythical third team, which NOR cannot find on its own, to take on that Okafor deal without enjoying the benefit of having CP. I can't see it happening unless Orlando is taking back a deal that's not quite that bad but almost just as bad (Hedo?) and throwing in something extra. That kind of defeats the purpose for Orlando not taking on Okafor... unless maybe they are thinking about positional needs and would rather add a bad cotnract that fits better.
That deal came very close, but is currently on the rocks...which is pushed Shinn into sweat mode. He literally can't keep the doors open financially.
Calling BS on this one. We could offer a better package, and true expiring contracts while taking Okafor off their hands directly. If the trade were this easy the wizard would have done it already. New Orleans is getting robbed blind if this is actually an option.
i think it's because paul is a free agent after this year so they want to get something for him instead of having him walk out and get nothing
Curry for Okafor is an interesting idea that NY should consider if they are faced with signing lower tier Free Agents that want more than they deserve. How would you place - rank an Okafor - Paul package in relation to the other packages being suggested for the Knicks? It does hurt the dealmaking capacity of the Knicks with the restrictions on their picks from the trade this past February with the Rockets. <hr> Thank you. Theory: <hr> <i> If the Hornets were unable to move Okafor (alone) with two First Round Picks attached, then the Magic might have some difficulty moving Okafor with three First Round picks attached. The Hornets should be expected to be in the fringe area of being late Lottery - bottom of the Playoffs for the next several seasons while the Magic should be expected to be picking in the 22 - 30 area for the next several seasons. </i> <hr> Whatever New Orleans had been offering in the way of picks as an inducement to take Okafor (alone), Orlando would have to increase the quantity since the Orlando Picks are likely to have less value than the New Orleans picks. The last time that I looked, the Magic didn't have picks owed them from other teams, so the picks required to make things happen would have to come from their own stream of picks in future years. If New Orleans would expect a future Orlando pick as a <i>token</i> gesture, that pick plus whatever picks that would be used to move Okafor would seriously impair the flexibility of the Magic on making future deals.
