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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, Apr 14, 2010.

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I would love to have Chris Paul, I would trade Lowry and Kmart for Paul, why, because CP3 brings LEBRON JAMES to Htown. LBJ will go whereever CP3 plays

#961 BackNthDay, Jun 23, 2010

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I would try to trade with the indianna pacers and trade Martin, hill and 14th pick for Troy Murphy granger and 10th pick. I think we could get Xhenry and pick up a vet center like brad miller. Them trade Ariza for mike miller and mcgee. This would complete our lineup!

Brooks/lowry
Miller/Henry/jtaylor
Granger/cbud
Scola/murphy
Yao/miller/mcgee

Nba finals contenders because or weakest position in games is late we don't have a legit scorer now there's granger. And we stay young with some vets! TELL ME WAT U THINK??

#962 007 all day, Jun 23, 2010
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Unfortunately, other teams can offer more attractive packages, but we've seen Magic Man Morey pull off some crazy stuff in the past. It would be costly, but worth it.

I have no idea how the money works in this scenario, but the Hornets would probably demand something along the lines of Brooks, Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill, and a draft pick or 2.

Comparing that to the NJ offer, I think Brooks is better than Harris and the combo of Kmart, Hill and Draft picks likely brings more value than a Cousins or Favors at #3.

#963 Danbury, Jun 23, 2010
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[Chad Ford] Al Jefferson on the market for expirings...

The Minnesota Timberwolves have been burning up the phone lines the last few days looking for a trade.

They've discussed deals to move up to No. 2 for Evan Turner, a 4 for 7 swap with the Pistons, and have looked at moving their other draft picks (16 and 23) to either get up in the draft or to add another veteran.

However, the most consistent thing I'm hearing is that the team appears to be determined to move Al Jefferson. According to sources they've offered him to Detroit for Tayshaun Prince this week and have also contacted the Pacers about their interest in Jefferson for Troy Murphy's expiring contract.

However, the latest thing I'm hearing out of Minnesota may have the most legs. Sources have told me that the Wolves and Grizzlies have been discussing a swap that would send Jefferson to the Grizzlies for Zach Randolph. The deal would allow the Wolves to save a lot of money over time. Randolph has one year, $17.6 million left on his contract. Jefferson has three years, $42 million left.

According to sources, Randolph's ongoing legal problems aren't an imediment to Minnesota who is doing the trade in an effort to get out of Jefferson's deal and free up more playing time for Kevin Love and potentially Derrick Favors if he falls to them with the No. 4 pick.

While sources stressed that the two sides were still just discussing the deal, one source sounded optimistic that it could actually happen.
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Shane Battier + David Anderson + Mike Harris works on the trade checker. I'd happily throw in #14 or Budinger. Thoughts?

#964 thekad, Jun 23, 2010
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Battier, Jeffries, #14 for Jefferson and a 2nd round pick?

#965 mikeyharris, Jun 23, 2010
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I think the Rockets make an Al Jefferson trade much bigger.

Houston Out:
Jefferies
Battier
Budinger
#14
2012 Knicks Pick
Future 2nd Rounder
$3 million (To facilitate battier buyout)

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Al Jefferson
#16
#23

Rockets get a back up/starting C/PF with some draft picks.

Minn. sheds salary and picks up young talent

#966 spankz141, Jun 23, 2010
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From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz0ri7c4MkX
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Trade rumor making the rounds: Minnesota trades Al Jefferson and the #16th pick for Zach Randolph and #12th. Money saver for Minnesota.

We could definitely make a better off for Al if we were interested.

#967 valorita, Jun 23, 2010

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Baqui99 said:

I imagine Morey would offer up everything but the kitchen sink to get Paul on board. The only question is whether New Orleans would accept. We've definitely got the assets. My guess is they'd want picks, expirings, Brooks, Hill, and cash.
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ok, go for it. anything but Yao. Even Scola, Brooks, Hill, Martin but no more than one of Scola, Brooks, Martin.

#968 glynch, Jun 23, 2010
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While I like Big Al, I don't think he is a Morey type of player.

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CP3 no longer untouchable!

NEW YORK – For months, rival executives’ calls to New Orleans general manager Jeff Bower on Chris Paul(notes) were met with an unmistakable response: Don’t bother. No engagement, no discussions. The Hornets’ franchise star was untouchable.

This has changed now. Bower still hasn’t started to shop him, but those close to Paul believed a threshold was crossed with the mixed message from the owner’s public statement on Wednesday. Nowhere did they hear out of George Shinn’s legendarily duplicitous mouth what the Hornets had always maintained about Chris Paul: We won’t trade him.

More From Adrian WojnarowskiDraft buzz: Nets consider Johnson at No. 3 Jun 22, 2010 Hornets’ Paul draws interest as draft nears Jun 21, 2010
Chris Paul could eventually be pointed out of town if someone makes the right offer.

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Around the league – and now, close to Paul – they believe the Hornets’ tenor has taken a dramatic transformation in recent days. They believe the Hornets have opened the bidding on the best player in franchise history. Shinn is on the way out as an owner, unmotivated to compete, and Paul is rapidly losing patience with the organization. Before Paul starts screaming that he wants out – and it’s coming, sooner than later – the Hornets seem inclined to solicit bids while they still hold some leverage in discussions.

So much of the problem here lies with the holdup of the Hornets’ sale from Shinn to minority partner, Gary Chouest, who, sources say, is still trying to recruit other partners to burden the purchase price with him. Shinn is a horrible owner, full of self-righteous blather and hollow commitments to winning. The sooner he sells, the better for the NBA and pro ball in New Orleans.

Paul loves that town, but he’s tired of the mom-and-pop Hornets. The only chance they have to keep him comes with an oilman, Chouset, getting the team and keeping his promise to spend money and try to compete in the Western Conference arms race.

Paul doesn’t want to leave for just anywhere, but he’s open to several select places, sources say. As do most stars, Paul wants a contender. Still, he is welcoming trade scenarios with rebuilding big-market teams like New York and New Jersey who have the resources to reshape themselves and compete for titles. Sources say Paul was livid when his name was mentioned in talks with Memphis, but all Bower did was answer the telephone and reject an offer. No one tried to shop him there.

Bower has been open to attaching Darren Collison(notes) to one of the Hornets’ bad contracts – such as Emeka Okafor(notes) – to clear salary, sources say. The first step of moving Paul will come when Bower proposes a trade that requests a team with cap space take Paul and absorb one of those bad contracts. Some officials believe Bower had made that kind of an offer to New Jersey, but Nets officials deny it.

When the possibility of the Portland Trail Blazers making a bid on Paul was brought to him, a source said, Paul’s reaction was simple: Why would I want to go there if they have to trade LaMarcus Aldridge(notes) or Brandon Roy(notes) to get me? I’d want to play with those players.

That’s the problem with trying to trade Paul. For one of the best point guards in the NBA, the Hornets would want no less than a young All-Star caliber player, a starter and draft picks. Only then, what kind of gutted core would await Paul with his new team?

Portland has bordered on tampering with Paul for two years now, and it’s never been much of a secret within the Hornets’ organization that the Blazers have gone to great lengths to make Paul aware of how badly they want him. It didn’t go unnoticed when Blazers president Larry Miller – a former Nike executive who had dealings with Paul – cozied up to the Hornets star on New Orleans’ trips to the Rose Garden. It is what it is, but most agree the Blazers have been merciless in trying to get into Paul’s ear – and those around him – to convince him to create a stir and force his way out.

Nevertheless, the biggest problem for New Orleans and Paul’s own agents at Octagon remains the relentless meddling of LeBron James’(notes) childhood buddy and business manager Maverick Carter and power broker William Wesley. The NBA lets LeBron’s friends come and go as they please in multiple team matters that don’t involve them, and they’re never held accountable for whatever complications they create. James’ camp can decry Jalen Rose’s proclamation that James is out of Cleveland, but no one is privately pushing that agenda harder to people than World Wide Wes.

They’re all buddies with Chris Paul, and they all want a piece of his representation. Wes has shopped Paul to teams, and he’ll continue to do it. That’s how it goes now, and that’s the world the mom-and-pop Hornets are living with now. Yes, the Hornets owner issued a statement on Wednesday that had some beautiful thoughts about Chris Paul, but everyone – including Paul’s own people – noticed what was missing: An assurance he wouldn’t trade him.

Even Bower says he’ll evaluate all offers, and those who made calls into New Orleans on Wednesday say that bids for the franchise point guard weren’t immediately rejected, but rather put on the big board in the Hornets’ facility. Chris Paul is still the face of the franchise, still the biggest star in Hornets history. Just understand this: He’s no longer untouchable.
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Get it done morey!~

#971 phantoman, Jun 24, 2010
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Much rather have CP3 than Bosh. Getting him and drafting a center would be the next best thing to getting Lebron or Wade.

#973 Htown's2kFinest, Jun 24, 2010

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waste of time.. he'll be too expensive

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Would Brooks, #14, Knicks 1st rounder, Hill, and Ariza get it done? That's not too expensive in my book.

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Aruba77 said:

Would Brooks, #14, Knicks 1st rounder, Hill, and Ariza get it done? That's not too expensive in my book.
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That's offering too much in mine.

#976 emjohn, Jun 24, 2010
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emjohn said:

That's offering too much in mine.
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What about brooks, Andersen, martin? I think the salaries are close.

#977 phantoman, Jun 24, 2010
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oops I forgot to add battier

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Add to it that they'll also demand we take on a bad contract or two like Peja Stojakovic and/or Emeka Okafor.

Not worth it.

#979 Chuck 4, Jun 24, 2010
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You guys are expecting a Top 2 point guard for cheap? smh

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