lol no strings attached. This is a simple video showing balls of oil washed ashore in Florida. Period. And about me being the boy who cried wolf, here is what I believe... Aliens exist, Alien controlled aircraft exist, but I do see these "ET's" as being demons in disguise. I believe ET's are here on earth, and have been working with the government for decades. 9/11 is a huge spiral of questions leading into a deep, scary hole. About the fake passengers talk, a small % of the passengers who died on the planes show up in a social security database as being dead. Few people know this, but 1 for sure, maybe 2 of the planes involved on 9/11 made an emergency landing at an airport in Ohio of a bomb scare which evacuated both planes, and had the passengers go into two seperate buildings. There is flight data from the airports showing 2 of the 4 flights on 9/11 never departed their supposed departing airports. 2 of the flights (if i remember correctly) were never boarded. There was only 1 conversation from flight 93 where someone mentioned one of the terrorist had a "box opener knife". It was pure speculation that the other 3 planes were taken over by boxcutter terrorists. A Fox News reporter CLAIMS a first responder told him Larry Silverstein was on the phone with his insurance company on 9/11 and asked them to approve of controlled demolition of his building. 2 days after this article was released on Fox News website, guess what? It's gone now. Larry Silverstein said in a PBS interview back in 2002 that (before he used his famous 'Pull it' words) he talked to the fire chief and told him to pull all the firemen out of the building because it was going to fall. Which is funny, because the fire chief Larry claims to have talked to denies talking with Larry on that day. When confronted about this denial, Larry's comment was "no comment". On a side note, shortly after WTC7 caught fire, the emergency responders had no water left to help control the fire. According to Larry, until his decision to pull them out of the building, they were trying to control the fire. Why was the LAST MAN OUT OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER who saved over 100 lives, got a chance to testify to the 9/11 commission but the 9/11 commission denies ever speaking with him. I'm sorry but until the government tries to make a an attempt to answer a few questions, the # of "boys who cry wolf" like me will grow and grow. On 9/11 and for a good 4 years afterwords I believed the official story. Why wouldn't I? It was until 2005 that I stumbled upon questions that I couldn't answer, and I couldn't find no one to answer, and 5 years later, new questions are arising. From Wiki: False flag operations are covert operations which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own.
ToyCen, your threads are literally trainwrecks. can you just make one ToyCen Government/Conspiracy/UFO thread and just continue to bump it as you see fit? or just post in a related thread? (there are plenty of BP oil spill threads that this could have gone in) that way people can peek in there whenever they want, get a good laugh, and move on. you can continue to share "what you believe" and everyone is happy. again, I admire your persistence and hope you had a happy Father's Day.
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me too...we went last year and it was awesome...was hoping to try there again or even Orange Beach in AL, but it looks like Galveston...
If ToyCen thinks it, then he says it, it MUST be true! Yeah, no proof from legitimate sources is the coolest.
This thread is clearly political in nature and needs to be in the D&D -- ToyCen knows this and continues to ignore the forum rules.
Let's talk about the truth. some guys hijacked a plane with box cutters. Who gives a **** what the story is, IN BUSH WE TRUST.
Let me ask you a question - do you think the media is in on all the conspiracies you subscribe to? Do you honestly believe the government got a hold of all the head honchos of every single major/minor media outlet in this country and somehow convinced them to keep all these shocking "facts" (which I'm sure if you somehow know about, they certainly will know about) on the hush-hush? Paid them a nice chunk of change or something? If yes, I don't know what to say to you. Provide some evidence I suppose, although asking that of you is obviously futile. If no, then I guarantee you, even the slightest inkling of credible evidence claiming ANY of the things you believe would stir the most intense euphoria in every reporter and journalist in the country and you would hear and read about nothing else for months. Example: Honestly, if such data existed, do you not think this would've been the top story of every single media outlet and we'd all heard about it by now? Or do you think somehow your underground/non-mainstream sources have the means to this information that CNN or Fox or MSNBC do not? Or are they all in on the conspiracy? I seriously wonder if you're just an internet personality desperate for virtual attention.
Not at all. This is a discussion forum. Everyone brings something to the table. I happen to bring up topics alittle bit off to the side of your dinner plate. Are these not valid questions I ask? And to answer your question, I believe the media will not talk about things too in depth that go against what our government. For instance, remember a few weeks ago when the video was released of our men in war killed innocent civilians including children and then joked about it like it was no big deal. I mean this is one of the scariest realities on video in its raw form for the nation to see and no one that I've seen has picked the story up. Why is this? Don't tell me "maybe they didn't know about it" because it was one of the most viewed videos on youtube at the time. The oil spill.... the media never showed just how bad the spill was until you just couldn't hide it anymore. There was a guy a couple weeks after it happened, that did a freelance flyover in his plane of the oil spill and recorded video images that was never before seen of this disaster. Here is an example. The Boston Globe first came out with this, and then it was reprinted in the Los Angeles Daily News, September 19, 2001. Tells of the government using 2 real people, altering their names, but using their lives... "Like everyone else on the unofficial list of victims from last week's terrorist attacks, the Larsons of Los Angeles symbolized lives cut heartbreakingly short. Jude, 31, was a medical student. Natalie, 24, was a fashion model, and four months pregnant. Both had wrapped up a visit with Natalie's family near Boston and were headed home on American Airlines Flight 11 when it plowed into the World Trade Center Sept. 11. None of it is true ... Jude Larson - whose real name is Jude Olsen, and who is 30, not 31 - e-mailed the Honolulu Star-Bulletin saying he is alive and living in Olympia, Wash. Tuesday, the three Hawaiian newspapers published stories saying the couple are safe. Jude is not in medical school. Natalie is not pregnant and is not from Boston. They did not fly on a plane that tragic day. And Olsen has visited his father in Maui just once, not 19 times. Curtis Larson [Jude's father] also told the papers Monday he was the victim of a hoax - that someone pretending to be his ex-wife called him, followed by one of the airlines." Also, the Fox News story I mentioned above in a previous reply. A journalist wrote and let something slip. Days later the webpage was REMOVED but there is video evidence of its existence. This is a subject the media don't want to get too into.
And that data you mentioned... here it is... look it up yourself... http://www.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummarystatistics/src/dstat/OntimeSummaryDepaturesData.xml This is from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics
trolling letsrollforums.com and then copy/pasting here is hardly data, or research for that matter. go back and re-read the irresponsibility to your claims. some of your own words include "maybe" or "if I remember correctly". you don't remember correctly because you are treading water to begin with, going down a path of half-truths and then just discovering false info on poorly made websites. you bring absolutely nothing new to the discussion. and the more you continue to drag the victims of 9/11 through the mud, I will continue to speak out against it- you are posting this in the wrong forum.
that you found while trolling letsrollforums.com what is the data supposed to say for an airplane that technically never reached its target? "hijacked"? "crashed into building"? I went ahead and looked at the BTS page and looked up the last five fatal and/or significant crashes in US history and the results are similar on the BTS page. I will not post you a link as it is a burden on my time. look it up for yourself, there's no conspiracy in the details you revealed. "on time data is provided by the commercial airlines to the BTS for business purposes" My coworker lost his brother on Flight 93. Your 9/11 posts will continue to be refuted and reported.
