No Call! LOL! you have to be kidding First of all his arm was not close to his body and secondly it would have been a goal if he did not stop it with his arm.
I like how that bad challenge from Ghana only gets a yellow when Cahill got straight red for less last game. Debatable handball = red, potential ankle breaking tackle = yellow. No wonder I have such a hard time trying to sell the game here!
Just watched the replay again his arm is actually moving out away from his body as the ball is kicked. This is not even debatable. It was a good call.
Unless they have changed it for the World Cup I am pretty sure its at the referee discretion if he thinks it was accidental he doesn't have to show red. Like I said maybe they changed it and I don't know? there was a match not long ago where a handball resulting from a deflection was paid a penalty but no card. I grew up playing football for the last 10 years on that assumption too.
Read the rule book. It is a subjective call, you can argue either way really. He did see the ball coming towards him and was set to block it, he kept his arms right next to his body to make a bigger area for the ball to hit, that is a no no. LOL, nobody is saying that the call was good. Don't know why you are mentioning that match, the situations aren't even slightly related.
Sending-off offences A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) It's always at the refs discretion though, the ref thought it was a deliberate handball, and it certainly denied the goal.
You don't need to post rules, I know them and keep pointing it out... I don't think it was deliberate. Did I somehow come across in another way? I think the red was harsh. In your expert opinion, why was the yellow on Ghana for that crude challenge not a red then? when less have been given red in this tournament and I know some of you claimed at least one of those was deserved.
This is absolutely correct. He had his ams close to his body before the ball was struck and he extended his arms out and blocked the ball when he saw it coming.
You can not compare the calls from one game to the next. There is never an absolute consistency among different refs, different games. If you play the game, you ought to know that.
Report: Coulibaly to get FIFA reviewJune 19, 2010 Email Print ESPN.com news services Malian referee Koman Coulibaly, criticized for disallowing a potentially U.S.-winning goal off a free kick in Friday's U.S.-Slovenia World Cup clash, may be dropped by FIFA for the rest of the World Cup, according to a Yahoo! Sports report. Citing a FIFA source, the report says Coulibaly is poised to face an expedited performance review from the refereeing committee of world football's governing body. Officials plan to review footage on Saturday from the Group C, 2-2 draw to evaluate Coulibaly's performance after several U.S. players blasted his handling of the match, Yahoo said. Second-half sub Maurice Edu appeared to put the U.S. ahead in the 86th minute, poking in a close-range shot after Landon Donovan's free kick to him. But the goal was waved off by Couilibaly, though it was not clear on whom the foul was called or what the foul was. After the match, Donovan said he asked the referee what the call was but did not get an answer. "We asked the ref many times what it was or who it was on and he wouldn't or couldn't explain it," Donovan said. "I don't know what to think of the call because I didn't see any foul, just a normal free kick and a goal." Podcast WORLD CUP:6/18 Download | Subscribe | iTunes Referees must submit a written report to FIFA after each match, but it is not specified in the rule that he must fully explain a ruling such as this. FIFA refereeing rules state: "The referee shall hand over to the FIFA general coordinator a match report at the stadium immediately after the match. On the report form the referee shall note all occurrences such as misconduct of players leading to caution or expulsion, unsporting behavior by supporters and/or by officials or any other person acting on behalf of an association at the match and any other incident happening before, during and after the match in as much detail as possible." Coulibaly could still appear, according to the source, as a line judge or other supporting role, but is unlikely to be given assignments to referee further matches. "If he is found to have made a serious mistake, especially one that affected the outcome, then he would be highly unlikely to play any further part in the tournament," Yahoo quoted the source as saying. "FIFA is determined to keep refereeing standards high and does not want high-profile mistakes." The controversial call comes four years after the 2006 finals in Germany where the refereeing was roundly condemned after a spate of controversies. It led to FIFA setting up a special referee's assistance program to better train top officials for the 2010 finals. Among those refereeing in South Africa are Benito Archundia of Mexico, who handled the 2006 semifinal between Germany and Italy, and Italian Roberto Rosetti, who also officiated the Euro 2008 final in Vienna. The 39-year-old Coulibaly has been officiating in African soccer competitions for 17 years and called the final of the African Cup of Nations between Ghana and Egypt earlier this year. United States team page For more about the U.S. and its chances in South Africa this summer, click here. For its part, the U.S. is moving on, with no way to appeal the disallowed goal. "There is no process for appeals for a decision on the field," team spokesman Michael Kammarman said Saturday. "We have not asked for any official comment from FIFA in regards to the call." Replays show that more Slovenes were holding Americans than vice versa. Aleksandar Radosavljevic held Michael Bradley in a bear hug, Bradley had his own theory: Coulibaly might have regretted his decision to award the free kick. Valter Birsa had been called or a foul on Steve Cherundolo. "I think it's a good goal, first. I think the only things really that could be called would be penalty kicks for us," coach Bob Bradley said. "There are times when a referee, for whatever reason, blows a foul and now thinks either he didn't make the correct call on the foul or from a previous play, and then literally as soon as the free kick's taken, he blows his whistle, OK? "So you can speculate all you want about which guy and everything, I think it's a waste of time. All right? I think there was nothing there. I think it's a good goal. And that's that." The U.S. team has been besieged with questions why soccer referees don't publicly explain controversial decisions, as umpires and referees do in U.S. sports. "We're all accustomed to the fact that if it's an NFL playoff game and there's a call that's in question, there will be a statement by the league from the referees, but FIFA operates differently," Bradley said. "There are some aspects of it that are not made 100 percent clear. That seems to add to the discussion about the game. So from our end we get used to that. And we all have friends and family who ask us the same questions that most of you ask, and you end up saying that's just how it is sometimes, and then you move on and you get ready for the next game." The U.S. would advance from the group phase if it beats Algeria on Wednesday or even with a tie as long as England loses to Slovenia. If the U.S. and England both draw, the Americans would advance if they maintain their goal advantage over the English, currently 3-1. But if England draws and scores two more goals than the U.S. does in the final game, the United States and England would finish even on all tiebreakers. FIFA would conduct a drawing of lots -- it's unclear whether that means a coin flip or another method -- to determine which team goes to the second round. The only time lots were used in a World Cup was in 1990, when the format was slightly different and 24 teams competed. Both Ireland and the Netherlands advanced with exactly the same results, and FIFA used lots to determine the Irish would finish second in Group F and the Dutch would be third. In the next round, the Netherlands lost to eventual champion Germany, while Ireland won a shootout over Romania to get to the quarterfinals, where it fell to host Italy. "I don't think anyone really wants that, to be honest" defender Jay DeMerit said. "I think as players and as a team and for fans, it should never really come down to things like that, but unfortunately that's the rules we live by. There's still a lot of soccer to be played between all four teams. And like I said, it will be very interesting to find out how the chips fall. And now we just have to make sure that we take care of things of our end and hope that it doesn't come to something like that." http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-...fifa-ax-us-slovenia-ref-wc&cc=4716?ver=global
I thought I was helping out... But the ref didn't think it was accidental, and as others have pointed out his arms were out to the side,and prevented the goal. Also that could have been given a red, I agree. It is a different official though. If this was the spanish ref from yesterday i'm sure both teams would have a collection of yellows.
Well we battled that one out well. Now just need to beat Serbia about 6-0 and we're through! haha. Shows what a moron our coach Pastabake is, we looked a lot lot better even with 10 men than we did against Germany. This is the formation we have played right through to get here. Even though the shot count was well towards Ghana I still thought we had the better chances.
I think the red was deserved, however, remember that when you jump up, your arms automatically go out for balance. DD
