Barack Hussein Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good...

The oil spill is as much Obama's fault as it was Bush's fault when he didn't land on a flooded runway in Louisiana.

These types of things are not exactly the job of the president.

 

Well why do you think the OP bothered to type out the middle name when in the video no where was it mentioned?

Odds On and those of you saying the middle name is no big deal have never been able to answer that simple question. If anything y'all have been more evasive about by trying to turn it backi by saying "why so sensitive?" That's not a response that is a deflection.

Leaving aside the middle name flap I pointed out though earlier how the title is completely misleading and answered the original topic. Neither Matthews nor Olberman said that Obama is making Carter look good. Further Matthews and Olberman's criticism isn;t the same as what you criticize Obama for. Unless you actually want Obama to crack down more on oil companies and impose a permanent ban on off shore drilling. Next Obama has actually done quite a bit about the spill which even Olberman acknowledged. Olberman's criticism isn't about he hasn't done anything its that he hasn't done enough. Again though if you are siding with Olberman I doubt you actually want Obama to do what Olberman is suggesting.

 

He is taking a page out of Obama's book. Diversion should be Obama's middle name.

It is funny how Obama supporters are now stretching for any little thing to use as a defense. So now his middle name is a defense? The reason why his own party is turning on him is not because the color of his skin nor is it because of his middle name. It is due to his disconnection with the people and his Non-Leader abilities.

 

His own party isn't "turning on him". Only in the GOP is anything less than Adolph Hitler-like slavish hero worship considered traitorous. There is an old adage about "the Hun" being either at your throat or at your feet. Apparently it applies equally well to the GOP these days. And it has done such wonderful things for your party to excommunicate anybody who doesn't worship the designated party heroes.

I get a big kick flipping past the O'Reilly's show and his sudden love for John Stewart. When Bush was president, the man couldn't stand the liberal pinko and the fact that the 'pinhead' was out to get Bush. John Stewart is doing the same thing he did all through the Bush years, but suddenly, Stewart is the greatest comedian ever and part of every show is basically a recap of the previous night's Stewart monologue.

 

Because most of what's in the press is stupid PC stuff and is in fact oversensitivity. Nappy headed hoes or eating collard greens are at worst just dumb and moronic.

You are playing a strawman by saying that "anyone who disagrees with him is racist?"

That's a load of crock - what kind of shabby logic are you applying here? There's plenty of people who disagree with many things Obama has done, including me. Do you really think I'm the type of person who will call someone a racist because they have a different view? Are you judging me based on what? You're just pissing me off even more man. The assumptions you are making are in fact the very basis of how racism is formed.

People projecting things onto a group without true consideration.

We're not stupid. Everyone here knows that the OP is implying that Obama is really some sort of illegal Muslim who has some kind of secret agenda.

Frankly, I don't care if the guy admits he's a bigot or not. I know he is. And no, it's not because he disagree with Obama, it's not because he's using his middle name, it's because he's EMPHASIZING his middle name as a means to label Obama as somehow being untrustworthy and less than someone who say...had a middle name like Walker or Earl.

You can keep a blind eye to it - but don't accuse me of playing some kind of race card - i'm just calling the quacking, waddling, yellow feathered bird a duck.

 

The strange thing is that people like sunsrocketsfan, are more upset that anyone would draw attention to the duck, than the fact that the duck is there.

Somehow it's better to not draw attention to the problem than it is to address the problem itself.

 

Nice post... Regulating...

 

I've never seen a yellow duck except maybe a baby duck. Pics or it didn't happen!

 

I'm just glad his middle name isn't "Wayne."

 

Maybe that's why some Cons whine that Obama's speeches are patronizing.

Either they're acting stupid or they really are.

 

Most accurate response in this thread.

 

I am just a lot more practical. Tell me how you want to address the problem and where the problem is to begin with. Okay lets just say that the OP is racist and used Hussein to label Obama as a Muslim or whatever. How do you want to address that problem? Are you going to somehow convert the OP to a non racist? Just ignore him and why make it such a big deal?

Again I personally dont know the OP but I doubt he is truly racist. I think it's more of a partisan attack. I could be wrong but I don't think anyone is a racist just because they use the name Barrack Hussein Obama. Anyways I think the best way to address the problem is just ignore it or start your own thread.

 

Calm down no need to get pissed off. I think we can just agree to disagree in the end.
I agree what's often times in the press is crap and stupid stuff. But don't you think there is more crap on these unregulated forums where any random person can post things? I would think if you can ignore what's in the press you can ignore someone in here who you don't know and who's views don't affect you in any way.

Also you misread my post I was only saying that it seems to be a common tactic of Obama supporters to use the race card. Anyone who disagrees with Obama they can always pull out the race card and label the person as racist. I did not imply that you were using that tactic.

Alright I think I have given my 10 cents on this topic.

Back to the real topic. Many of you know that I am not a Obama supporter but I think it's unfair that people are blaming Obama for not doing enough. What do you want the man to do? No one knows how to stop the spill or how to clean this crap up. It's just as unfair as people blaming Bush for Katrina. It was also pretty ridiculous to see Palin on the O'Reilly show trashing Obama and when pressed on how she would do things differently she just blanked out. Politicians just make me sick sometimes.

Oh well... I'm looking forward to Toy Story 3 tonight!

 

I think racism, or whatever is generally despised to the point where usually just shining a light on it, and calling it out would be enough. Again with something as minor as Obama's middle name, there doesn't need to be a lot done about it, other than call it out, and draw attention to it.

I have no idea if he's racist or not, but the middle name thing wasn't used on the white Democratic president mentioned who is also supposedly bad. It was only used on the black Democratic president, and the reason is obvious. What's worse is when attention is pointed to his inconsistent middle name use we get the "what's wrong this name?" defense.

 

It's only tangentially related to race/ethnicity in that Obama is black and the name sounds Muslim. The burden is still on you to provide evidence to back up the claim that the comment is rooted in race rather than it's similarity to a dictator.

Uh, exactly. Cheney is an example of a white politician whose name is used in a negative context, just like Obama's. Again, if Obama's middle name was Hitler, don't you think people would be doing the same thing?

 

I'm not saying people don't play the race card a lot in general and in regards to Obama. They do - way too much. And I will also say that I find a lot of the innuendo's directed at Sarah Palin to be really over the line and definitely sexist. It's one thing to call her stupid, but the title of the other tread, "Sarah Palin exposes herself to Bill O'Reily" - we're lucky there are not a lot of chicks on this forum.

People do say a lot of things, and I think when there is a lot of room open for interpretation, you have to give the person the benefit of the doubt. BUt in these case, it's just so obvious - using Obama's middle name and not using Carter's? I mean, the OP just showed all his cards with that one. That's the smoking gun.

As R2K says, Politicians suck. But you know what, I go further and say that politicians suck because people care more about images and appearances than actual substance. If people actually wised up and really cared I think our politicians would change to reflect that.

After all, we elect them into office.

 

By the way, Republicans also don't like using Barrack's middle name:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/28/tennessee.gop/index.html

By the way, Karl Rove said of using Obama's name "would sound like a rallying cry for bigots."

 

Do a google search my friend on the following

"Obama Hitler"
"Obama Stalin"
"Obama Mao"
"Obama Saddam"

And then tell me if you think people are saying his middle name to invoke Saddam. They are not. No one says Obama is Saddam, but they do say he is all the other guys.

So what do you say now?

 

I am not sure that he'd be upset about seeing the duck, I just think it's easier not to see it or maybe a matter of conditioning. We as humans are incredibly adept at numbing ourselves to things to the point it doesn't even register and that's what I think is happening a lot of times with race.

And this is the reason I'm very anti-PC. Because it doesn't really address the duck, it only sorta says - hey, don't say anything that might be construed as offensive. That's not going to solve racism. All it does is sweep it under the rug along with a lot of stuff that isn't racist and is in fact the color of culture.

That's why I always advocate looking at intent - it's one thing to make a joke that's tasteless...but when someone is doing something with clear ill intentions, that's the time to take a stand and call it out.

 

"Dick" has nothing to do with race or religion

"Hussein" = Muslim/Arabic name