Barack Hussein Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good...

The bolder of renewable energy rolling? This is a crisis, not a platform to push an agenda! From what I'm seeing..it seems like BP is still in control of what's going on. I understand that its thier expertise in trying to cap the well and I'm fine with that. The gov. has no way of knowing how to do this. What is pissing me off is the containment and clean up of the oil before it hits our shores. BP should fit the bill, but the Obama should have taken control of this part of the spill very early on. I know he says they were there from the start, if they were...they didn't do jack!. This isn't the first or biggest oil spill in history. There are companies and people who have expertise in this type of operation whom I'm sure have offered their services very early on (look up Thrustmaster here in town). From what it looks like to me they have been using BP's 'prefered' method of doing this, which consist of skimmers and booms. Its really an ineffective way of containing the oil. There should have been big tankers sucking this stuff up as it came to the surface (its a method that has been used before). The gov took the BP line that they could go at it alone. This has obviously gotten too big for BP to do alone.

I'm all for having more saftey regulations and over hauling the MMS, however creating the moratorium on drilling for 6 months is probably the dumbest move he has made so far. Lets hamper a region who is already suffering with the spill and take away even more jobs from the area. You're talking over 100,00 jobs! The oil companies aren't going to sit around and wait 6 months to place thier rigs in the Gulf. The new and more advanced rigs are going to go elsewhere and in six months the US will be left with older rigs, which could pose thier own saftey risk. The people in the Gulf don't want this.

 

It is pretty telling that the OP and many other posters here are closest (or not so cloest) prejudice, who are not in touch wit the time and cannot handle that someone who is BLACK AND MUSLIM is in the white house.

There was no point in writing his full name, you thought you were being cute and attracting your conservative friends.

 

I don't understand why the usage of his middle name is such a big deal. It doesn't alter my view of him in any way. "Hussein" isn't any more Islamic than "Barack" or "Obama", and if he were ashamed of it, he would've legally changed it. Since he is not and has said his full name on occasions, I fail to see as to why this is constantly being brought up as the argument in this thread.

 

last I checked Barrack Obama considers himself a Christian not Muslim..
Stop being so ignorant. Just because someone calls him Hussein does not mean they are racist. Do they disagree with his politics? Perhaps.. but that's about it. The radical left just love to use the race card. It's ridiculous.

 

It's everyone's favorite radical cry baby liberal.

 

Hussein is the simplest code word to make him sound alien or an outsider.

All this ducking and weaving to deny that it isn't is like some poor douche flying a Confederate flag while claiming he does it because of his rich heritage.

 

Well I dont know oddson's intentions and he may have meant it in a derogatory fashion but my point was what is the big deal? He has his views of Obama and I have mine and you have yours. People on here made calling Obama Hussein which is ACTUALLY his REAL middle name such a big deal. Posters on here made it seem like it was blasphemy. Is calling Obama - Hussein worse than calling Bush Hitler? Which is why I said other presidents have been called much worse things and didnt draw 5 pages of replies as to why the OP used his REAL middle name. Just seems a bit ridiculous to me even if the OP did have other intentions.

 

Barack supposedly means lightning in Hebrew. Its Arabic translation is Baraka.

Hussain is a very common name for Shia Muslims. One of the Prophet's grandsons was named Hussain. The other grandson was named Hasan.

 

As is often said, the cover-up is worse than the crime.

If he started a thread with, "Barack Hussein Obama must be a dirt-worshiping mooslim because of that foreign sounding mooslim middle name", he would have been called a moron for a page or two and we could have gotten on with our lives.

 

Just look at the thread title...it has Obama's middle name, but not Carter's? Why is that? You know why.

Calling Obama a stalinist or whatever is one thing. In fact Obama has been called Hitler already. That's not what people are being bothered by. It's the fact that people are trying to connect him to Islam and somehow making that a dig.

It's not attacking Obama that's disturbing here, it's the attack on minorities and Islam and those who share that name. Quite frankly, it's offensive to me as a minority.

And if you can't comprehend that as being something outside of being a liberal or a conservative, I suggest you spend more time around minorities and try to know what it's like to be associated in some negative light just because of the name or color of your skin that you inherited.

 

Not just carter's, but any president.


It is clear as day and night what his intent was, the best he can do is own up to it at this point.

 

what's with all the shock & outrage? this middle name insertion aint nothing new - bigtexxx had already referred to obama as "BHO" like 500 times in this forum. it's now come to be expected that 90% of the threads in this forum will bypass discussion of any issue or relevance and just delve into this pointless partisan drama.

what did you guys think of the actual speech? i saw the first 5 min of it and can't say i was all that impressed with the lack of detail and credential touting (i think he emphasized that one of the guys had 40 years experience in disaster response). And i hope that BP is indeed ultimately held liable for all costs as well as for the punitive damages to people along the coast. but i've learned thus far that just b/c obama says one thing doesn't mean it ends up happening. and in this case, so far his ties and loyalty to corporate interests have proven unbreakable. i guess it could be worse though - just imagine if sarah palin were in charge of fixing this fiasco!

 

Same thing I was. Thinking.

 

All of this has been discussed in detail in the "deepwater horizon" thread. Some of your points are valid, but a good deal of them are impractical and/or untrue.

Agree with this. No reason to shut down other than a political stunt.

 

Yes, this would be the perfect time to start a Manhattan Project for renewable energy, right when the public is fired up and ready to support it.

Crisis has historically been the best platform to push an agenda. The Great Depression led FDR to push an agenda that has served America extremely well over the last 70 years or so, Sputnik spurred JFK to send men to the moon, 9/11 let Bush invade a sovereign country that hadn't attacked anyone in a decade. Crisis is the perfect platform from which to push an agenda.

Very reasonable comments.

If you believe this, then you have been watching the wrong news sources. There are thousands of people mobilized on shore, the Coast Guard and private boats are skimming and burning every day, the response to this disaster was immediate and has been substantial.

It isn't the first, but it is by far the biggest in this country's history, you need to find another news source so that you have your facts straight. Up to 40,000 barrels of oil have been spilling into the Gulf every day since this started and based on that number, this spill is more than double the Exxon Valdez spill.

BP has not gone "at it alone" in the least bit. There are thousands of boats skimming, thousands of people cleaning beaches and wildlife, and relatively few of those boats and people are owned or employed by BP.

I would think a moratorium would be in order given the magnitude of this spill and the apparent problems with our oversight agencies. Personally, I would shut down all offshore drilling for every hole that doesn't have a relief well drilled, that regulation has been in place in Canada for quite some time, but the oil companies still find it profitable to drill there.

Are you really of the opinion that, given this spill, the oil companies should be able to just go on doing business as usual?

 

The issue that some of us have with the OP's choice of using Obama's middle name is that he won't defend that usage. He threw it in there for some reason, the video he linked to didn't use the name, so it was OO's choice to throw it in there.

Since he won't explain his usage, it is a pretty reasonable assumption that he wanted the less intelligent and more reactionary among us to associate Obama with either Muslims or Saddam. I really don't blame OO that much, he is simply reflecting his choice of news sources. Fox and right wing bloggers use this tactic constantly to keep the bigots fired up, OO is just parroting them.

 

parroting them? he's one of them

 

Not entirely true, unfortunately.

 

Except that we don't know exactly what caused the explosion in the first place. Given the magnitude of this disaster doesn't it make sense to figure out the cause of this before we risk continued drilling?

 

That's too bad, I think it is a good regulation that would have allowed BP to stop this leak much faster.