One foot fadeaway - is it a travel?

Interesting. "all in a continuous motion of a jump" is probably the differentiator here. Maybe in my thought, it would LOOK more like a "big step towards the basket" than a jump, and therefore would be traveling in that scenario

 

I can't really tell what you are talking about, but I think we are envisioning two different things. I am talking about back to the basket, dibble picked up, and pivot foot already established. You can begin your jump with either foot in that case.

You seem adamant that you are correct that it is illegal. Can you provide the relevant section of the rulebook that supports your assertion?

 

So If I'm on the block, you pass me the ball, and I go to a fade away without dribbling is it a travel?

Or say I dribble and come to a jump stop on one pivot, and then same situation, I take a step with my non-pivot foot out of the triple threat and shoot on one leg. In that scenario, I no longer have my dribble, so is it not traveling then?

It sounds like you're saying it's only travelling if you are able to dribble the ball.

 

You can lift your pivot foot if you are taking a shot or making a pass (whether you can dribble or not is irrelevant). I don't know what is so confusing about it. Maybe some people in this thread have the misconception that lifting your pivot foot is a travel in all situations?

 

yeah i dont see whats so confusing. its not a travel. you can take a step and hold your pivot foot in the air, as long as you dont put it back on the ground its not a travel.
even that kobe clip he didnt travel. his left foot was in the air when he picked up the ball. then his left foot was the pivot all the way through the ball fake spin.

 

Right. The traveling violation occurs when a player attempts to dribble after lifting their pivot foot. Once the pivot foot is lifted, as in most case when two steps are taken, you must release the ball.

 

Yeah, I see what you are saying. I believe that is a separate section of the traveling rules and it states the ball must leave your hands for the dribble before you lift you pivot foot or else it is a travel.

 

It's not a travel if it's a crab fadeaway

 

Then on theory-- out of the triple threat, with my left foot as my pivot, I can take a step with my right, without dribbling, and stand there on my right leg as long as I shoot or pass?

I guess the easiest explanation would be to say that you're only allowed to lift your pivot foot if it's in a shooting/passing motion. Dream would lift his pivot foot all the time.

But then even that isn't true.. if you're in the post, with your right foot as the pivot, and you do a fadeaway lifting your right foot and standing on your left, you can hold that position (as in not shooting the fadeaway; maybe you realized it'd be blocked and didn't jump off your left foot but instead keep it on the ground) -- it isn't traveling unless your right foot comes back down.

 

I'm pretty sure it's a travel if you try to take your 2 steps after pivoting. Dirk does it all the time! he pivots, then on the fadeaway, he lifts his pivot foot first then the other. I always thought that would be a travel. That's what I was taught.

I also hate when little teen kobe-wannabes at the gym or at the courts take a huge jumpstep and then pivot instead of going up for the shot. that's obviously a travel!

 

No it's not. Huge jumpstop or small jumpstop, they are the same. The height of your jumpstop is irrelevant. One may look more like a travel because it is relatively unorthodox, but it's not.

If you land on both both feet simultaneously after a jumpstop, you CAN establish a pivot foot.

 

did you see paul pierce's travel just now? EXACTLY what i'm talking about. The same thing as the one foot fadeaway, except going towards the basket... and it was called a travel (and the commentators called it as such too)

 

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