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Xavier Henry?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by danoman, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Member

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    What they mean is who you think is the BPA. Of course, you could be wrong. But if you draft exclusively for need it's more likely to blow up in your face.

    We have two good PG's and an injury prone C who will only play limited minutes next year. If we had the #1 pick, would you draft a big over John Wall? There's no crystal ball telling us that Wall will be the best player, but of course you have to take him.
     
  2. AXG

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    Seriously??? I have a feeling that most of those big men will be busts or backup role players at best, and no to Orton. Although Henry is another wing, he's more NBA-ready AND has great upside of the group you listed.
     
  3. Jet036

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    Everytime I see Whiteside's name I feel like he'll be a bust...same with Udoh.

    I was just thinking the same thing. He'll probably pick someone random - like Terrico White of someone.
     
  4. AzNaNsZ

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    Well I agree with Morey's view of drafting on talent rather than need since it can really screw up a franchise like Portland has done TWICE,
    first with picking Sam Bowie over MJ and picking Oden over Durant. As you can see both these picks were based on need as Portland in both
    situations had a dominent wing in Roy and Drexler.

    So I think Morey will refrain from picking a big man just for the sake of the need for a bigman and I see him picking up a point guard of a wing again
     
  5. roslolian

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    To say you believe in BPA, you need to objectively determine who the BPA is first or the whole way of thinking falls apart. However that's not possible, so IMHO its a lot like saying I'll pick only red jelly beans in a jar but you're colorblind. I mean, since you're basically guessing and your guy might be a dud, why is it wrong to get the guy who might be a dud but fits your roster better?

    A lot of people point out to Durant however that's not really a fair comparison because Oden has always been injured. A more apt comparison would be Hakeem and Jordan. Technically speaking Jordan turned out to be the BPA, however if the Rockets had picked Jordan instead of Hakeem, I'm pretty sure the Rockets wouldn't have won their 2 championships.

    That's why IMHO when people say BPA they really just mean be more conservative. Take for example John Wall and a high potential big like Cousins. If Cousins pans out and taps into 100% of his potential, is he really worse than "BPA" John Wall? Even if he is less talented than John Wall, as a high tier big isn't he more valuable and can impact the game just as much or even more than Wall? An A- big is better than an A sg/pg so while the sg/pg is the BPA, if the A- big doesn't bust you could actually end up with the better player overall, at least for purposes of building a championship team as history has already shown time and time again.
     
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  7. jump shooter

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    I think Udoh is as NBA ready as anybody in that group.
     
  8. BasketballReasons

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    You guys are trippin' if you think Henry>George.

    Not only can George shoot, but he can also create for himself and for others, something that Henry has been lacking. Not only that but George is an athletic BEAST, he has amazing size for a 2-guard and has a very nice shot.
    He's got all the tools to become a defensive specialist and is already a good scorer.

    He's the 2nd best SG in the draft, and I think most would agree that he is not only better than Henry, but also has more potential.

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  9. RedRedemption

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    I think Xavier would be a good backup to Martin, and you can bump up Bud to SF. Especially considering that we're going to lose Battier sometime in the next 2-3 years. We can mold him on defense.
     
  10. danoman

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    Paul George is compared to ariza :eek: /danny granger, henry is compared to Paul Pierce /Battier they say he has all around polished game with great fundamentals and intelligence what more can you ask for in the draft? other than maybe a quality big. He would come to our team contribute imediately.
     
  11. pbthunder

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    Conservative has nothing to do with it.

    You pick who you think is the BPA. All GMs, and the vast majority of posters on this board, believe they know which among two players is better, or that they are even in ability. From that point, the BPA philosophy is just to ignore which position they play.

    Your assertion would make an interesting poll: How many on this board think they could do no better making a draft pick than a colorblind man could do picking red jelly beans?
     
  12. danoman

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    i think that the best player available is evalued in numbers, stats, percentages, scenarios what school he went to did he play on a weak team or weak division, basketballl IQ, fundamentals
     
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    His potential D is compared to Ariza, he certainly has better ball-handling skills than Trevor.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    So you would take Cousins over Wall? That's just crazy. Also, any GM given the choice between CP3 and Bogut at this point would easily take CP3. Milwaukee made the right pick, the "safe" pick. But New Orleans got the better talent by far and has had more team success as a result.

    Notice how the Hornets also drafted a Collison last year instead of big they "needed"? He's exploded now and that's not a problem. In fact, it's a huge boon that he's a major trade piece now. Always draft the BPA.
     
  15. jump shooter

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    Statistically Cousins rates higher than Wall as a projected player and from what I read he's moving up the draft boards. Stats don't mean much to me, but some GMs really lean on them.
     
  16. carib

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    I think you have to combine BPA with the team fit. Sure we need a Big man and Morey a few years ago drafted Dorsey cause he was the best big available (and yes he turned out to be a bust) but I think Morey factors in the best fit for the team or tradeable for someone else.

    I hope that there is a decent big available and we draft him. If we draft a SG/SF I will not be disheartened because even though we are stacked at that position and the draft pick may not get many minutes, Morey is probably thinking of trading a SG/SF for a PF/C.
     
  17. coachbadlee

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    Xavier Henry = Evan Turner in 2 years. Almost an exact clone. :grin: :eek:
     
  18. Jet036

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    If Paul George were available at 14 I would pick him in a second. There's no way he's still gunna be available at 14 though.
     
  19. jasonemilio

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    I like Paul George and he is the only perimeter player in our draft area that I would want.

    Henry's defense is even worse than Chase's. He is also only an average athlete.
     
  20. danoman

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    check this out, a little more on the "Best Player Available" subject


    (Few draft candidates illustrate the Warriors' quandary like Kansas' Xavier Henry.

    With the sixth overall pick, the Warriors are likely too low to nab one of the no-brainer choices in the June 24 NBA draft, but they are high enough that they'll have some good players from which to choose. General manager Larry Riley said he prefers to go with the best player available over filling a need.

    The last thing the Warriors need is a shooting guard. But what if the best player available is Henry, a 6-foot-5 shooting guard?

    "They made it clear that they were really interested in me," Henry, 19, said Monday. "I think I showed them everything they wanted to see. I think I should at least be in contention for it.")
    http://www.insidebayarea.com/warriors/ci_15247845
     

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