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Our 93-95 championship rockets vs a Jordan equipped league..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hatchbackala, Jun 6, 2010.

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    GOTCHA!!!

    We NEVER beat the Bulls?

    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: SAT 10/19/1985
    Section: Sports
    Page: 7
    Edition: 1 STAR

    Rockets roll past Bulls


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: FRI 01/16/1987
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: NO STAR

    Rockets stymie charging Bulls for 107-96 win


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: SAT 02/04/1989
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets take Air out of Bulls' sails/Defense, balance the difference

    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: SAT 02/04/1989
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets take Air out of Bulls' sails/Defense, balance the difference


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: FRI 02/02/1990
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets crush Bulls 139-112/Chicago's newfound unity fades into thin Air Jordan


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: TUE 03/26/1991
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 2 STAR

    Rockets snap Bulls' win string

    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: FRI 01/31/1992
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 2 STAR

    Rockets steer past Bulls 105-102/Chicago loses second straight

    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: SAT 12/12/1992
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets turn Bulls inside out


    Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
    Date: FRI 01/29/1993
    Section: Sports
    Page: 1
    Edition: 3 STAR

    Rockets stop Bulls, Jordan/Defense keys 94-83 victory
     
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  2. tinman

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    I've been a Rockets fan since the 80s, how do you like them apples?
    A decade eh?
    That means you started watching Rockets basketball in 2000.

    Olajuwon and Jordan came out in 80s. You know that right?
    That means you never saw them play. Trust me it's not like the Rockets were on national TV, there's no freaking NBA league pass back then.

    You can say you are a Rockets fan, but I'd rather associate with a Utah fan who respects the Dream or an old time Bulls fans who actually witnessed those matchups.
     
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    The Bulls never beat the Rockets to win their championships. That is as valid as saying the Rockets didn't beat the Bulls to win theirs.

    The thing about the matchup is that Jordan couldn't really drive against Hakeem's defense. Jordan would get his points, but they would be from the outside, as he got tired of trying to deal with Maxwell's relentless defense.

    When Jordan was busy in that struggle and scoring most everything from the outside, he isn't able to create the attention down low and get his teammates involved. Meanwhile at the other end of the court, Hakeem would destroy Cartwright or anyone else the Bulls would throw at him. No matter what they wanted to do, they would have to help off of someone to slow Hakeem down. Hakeem could then get his teammates open looks.

    I understand your point that the Rockets weren't the best because they couldn't get out of the Western conference, but it's a game of match ups. No matter how you slice it, the match ups favored the Rockets vs. the Bulls.

    I'm not trying to take anything away form the Bulls championships. They did what they had to in order to win them, and the Rockets didn't those years, but at the same time it's silly when people try and take something away from the Rockets championships.

    It's like saying whoever wins the finals this year doesn't really deserve it because they didn't have to play the '81 Celtics, and everyone knows that the '81 Celtics would beat whichever team wins this series.

    A fully healthy Jordan who hadn't had the grind of the full 82 game season in '95 to wear him down, was there, and he couldn't get his team past the Magic were swept by the Rockets.

    The Magic also had a big center who could clog up the middle. He wasn't as good as Hakeem but even still the match up helped them beat the Bulls in the play offs.

    Just one thing about Michael Jordan(not directed at anyone in particular). All we have of him now are highlights. In those clips he is amazing and never makes a mistake. For many people that's all they've ever really seen of Jordan, while they were able to watch Hakeem day in and day out, and did see his mistakes as well as his greatness.

    But in reality Jordan missed game winning shots, he turned the ball over, and sometimes he lost. I witnessed Buck Johnson block the hell out of Michael Jordan... Buck Johnson of all people. It won't be on any highlight but those kinds of things happened.

    That doesn't take anything away from Michael Jordan and his greatness, but people should look back with some perspective.
     
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    We need to limit the debate to people who actually saw the Rockets play the Bulls in the 80s and 90s.

    You know you have to do a presentation on WWII, you bring in war vet or a dude who's good at Call of Duty?
     
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    You may argue your points about the Bulls beating the Rockets but the fact is that they never did. The Bulls had all the chances to beat the Rockets in a finals match all those years but they never did. The Bulls lost their chances by losing to other ECF teams in the playoffs. The Rockets won all their finals series and that fact cannot be denied and no amount of speculation or noise, excuses, justification can change that.




    that was easy enough
     
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    Oh come one bro, there has been like 4 threads in the gram with the same subject.
     
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    that was clean block %100, but it's Michael Jordan who cars about Yao ming..
     
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    Dayyym
     
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    There's not even a guarantee the Bulls get passed the Knicks in 93'-94'. You have to debate that first. And if you want to through around some what ifs, what if Michael Jordan sustained a knee injury in one those two seasons that nags him the rest of his career so much that he never wins 4, 5, and 6? WHAT IF? Ugh!!
     
  10. albuster

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    I really hope you can understand what context means. You knew I was referring to the NBA finals/championships all along. Come on stop grasping at straws and let us use some of our mental faculties here.
     
  11. tinman

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    Whatever dude. you said you've been a Rockets fan for the last decade, so you never saw these teams play.

    What you said wasn't out of context, it was what you REALLY FEEL about it.

    You REALLY FEEL that the Rockets couldn't beat the Bulls AT ALL. You REALLY FEEL they would get swept or beaten down.

    You don't even care about what happened when they really met cause you've predetermined in your mind that the Chicago Bulls were invincible and that Jordan never had failures or even tasted failure.

    Take it from people from people who were Rockets fans in that era and learn why we have so much pride in Clutch City.
     
  12. albuster

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    In some of my previous posts I stated that I was already an NBA fan back when Wilt and Russell were dominating the league. As far as watching the Bulls and the Rockets are concerned, I was already a Bulls fan during the Sloan era up until Krause destroyed it. Want more creds, I watched the first ever official NBA game of Jordan at the Chicago Stadium so newbie is far from who I am. I used to watch the Rockets at the old Summit and saw Hakeem play. I also watched so many times when the Sonics and Jazz whipped the Rockets even with the dominating center that they have. Yeah, we had no league pass back then but we had brains and the NBA players were both smart and tough. We knew how to spell words correctly, attend classes frequently and not made any excuses for when we didn't do well in classes.
    Oh one more thing, we read books then too.
     
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    :) So then based on your own logic, since the Bulls were not good enough in 95 to make it to the Finals, then they would have lost to the Rockets?
     
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    So then based on your own logic, since the Bulls were not good enough in 95 to make it to the Finals, then they would have lost to the Rockets? So you will know who the comment was for.
     
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    I like how the topic of preserving Clutch City brings out the 99ers.

    Brothers we may have our differences, but we unite like Voltron when it comes to the championships!
     
  16. albuster

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    Most probably, yes.
     
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    Had they met in the finals, that is.
     
  18. tinman

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    So how's that Holiday Inn Express you are staying in?
     
  19. albuster

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    Sorry but I don't stay in cheap hotels. I earned what I know and have from working hard and staying in school for many more years than you can ever imagine. Even your insult is cheap.
     
  20. napalm06

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    The guy belittling Clutch City calls insults cheap. Cool.

    Perhaps it's time you got a breath of off-campus life since you've "stay[ed] in school for many more years than [we] can ever imagine".

    Rockets didn't make finals =! Rockets can't beat Bulls.
     
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