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Kobe Bryant: Imitating greatness...and where's Dream?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Ketchup&Mustard, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. Ketchup&Mustard

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    I know the video was primarily about film study. I just believe espn could have taken it a little bit farther and connected the film study bit to a Hakeem workout bit.
     
  2. ItsMyFault

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    And what video do you suppose they use?
     
  3. KePoW

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    Okay great. You made your opinion known.

    But the network didn't do as you want and it's obviously not going to change. So what are you going to do about it now? Continue to cry about it? Do you have problems letting go?

    Are you actually going to start some official movement and demand the network put in an additional Hakeem segment? Or are you just looking for some fellow Rockets homers to agree with you to make you feel better? (obviously it's the latter, because nothing else is going to happen)
     
  4. Ketchup&Mustard

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    You're the one getting your panties in a bunch. This is called a "forum" it's where people "debate" and "discuss" their opinions. I'm simply inviting anyone to share their thoughts and if someone let's it be known that they disagree with me then that's fine, I have no problem with that. But I'm also allowed to disagree with them and debate the topic. So if you want to actually contribute to the thread with an actual opinion and not pose about 10 asinine questions then please do. Otherwise stop being an ass
     
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    Yeah, that would fit perfectly with the video that they had rolling in that segment. They were showing gameplay videos of the players actually playing and doing their moves against defenders.
     
  7. Ketchup&Mustard

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    Hence why I said "connect" the bits. Meaning, transition into a different yet related video. It's a talent to bridge that gap, but when it's done well it makes for a more well rounded piece. I'm in broadcast news so I think I know how things can fit together if done correctly.
     
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    All the article was implying how great of a copycat Kobe is or was.
    But he was not revolutionary as those other guys. That alone cannot make him the greatest player of alltime.
     
  9. ItsMyFault

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    If you're calling Kobe a "copycat", you're pretty much setting a double standard for him. Everyone in the league TODAY and in the past have taken moves from other players. Some more than others.... but you do know it takes talent and skill to pull off those moves. You're making it much more simpler than it is... you can't just take someone's moves. You have to be good enough to carry it out on the basketball floor... thus, the reason why Kobe is so great today. The other part of that is that he is learning how to do certain things on the court with what he has to work with (i.e. small hands, small body) so I wouldn't necessarily call that stealing. Chris Paul, for example, has admitted some of the things he has taken from Gary Payton and Jason Kidd.... but the only way he's able to pull the moves off is by being as talented as he is.

    Just give it up... Hakeem isn't some kind of praised god in the NBA. Why would they go through the troubles of showing what he did with Hakeem? I think you're overrating the fact that because they did work out and then they mentioned it in that article, that it should've been a significant piece in a film studying video where it shows how Kobe studies film of players that played in the game.
     
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    I just wanted make statement for those guys who are as great as Kobe but not as flashy. I understand I did call him copycat in one of my posts because it was stated as such in his interview. He LITERALLY SAID he was one and was PROUD of it.
    For example, the Big Fundamental Timmy Duncan whose style of play is somewhat ugly but effective. You know we could argue about Shaq, Duncan... Garnett in prime who I think are on Kobe's level all day but its POINTLESS.
    It is somewhat possible to achieve less, but having the same skill set or better skill set than Kobe's. I really admire the killer instinct of Kobe, and don't see people having that.
    There comes the responsibility to not quit on your team, when you are called the best of the best. And Pre-gasol Kobe was close to quit on his team as the former no 1 of the Rockets did.
    Please don't say MJ quit because he went to play Minor League Baseball. He did it when he was winning championships and Kobe was close to quitting because he was frustrated with his role players. That is the reason alone I think he cannot crack the top 5 of all time.
     
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    I was never arguing if he was better than MJ or if was even a top 5 player or could be one. I certainly don't think so.
     
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    I know. We were just talking. ;)
     
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    Actually if you check the thread, that was my one and only response. So how was I getting my panties in a bunch?

    You were the one who replied about 15 times all saying the same exact thing over and over, nothing new.
     
  14. Ketchup&Mustard

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    Were you abused as a child?
     
  15. Ketchup&Mustard

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    I only replied to you once. I was going back in forth with one other person. It's called a discussion, and sometimes people need to hear some of the same points reiterated a bunch of times before it sinks in. It obviously didn't in this case.
     
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    Not that I'm aware of. You seem to be going off topic on your own thread.
     
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    lol wtf does that matter? wow that was so clueless its laughable
     
  18. Ketchup&Mustard

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    Just adding some levity to the discussion. Seems like it was needed.
     
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    he used a couple moves from hakeem this season and more notably in the playoffs.. yea it paid immediate dividends in his game, dont u disrespect and downplay the Dreams significance,

    Rule #1 to bein a true Rockets fan: You NEVER, ever ever ever, in any way, shape or form belittle or overlook Hakeems impact, place in history or influence :cool: if you do its exhile into the depths of the hottest volcano in the world ;)
     

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