I agree the true cost is dumb because we will arrive at some profit margin and then be no where. You can have your opinion of it chnging with labor increase but frankly you should also realize that the time period you are talking about also saw some SERIOUS increase in commercial mower efficiency.
There is no data to be able to do this. You can also not be able to account for difference in quality or included services. My argument is the owners are just eating up the increased profit margins and not paying their labor any more. frankly i am surprised the liberals disagree with me on this.
What? Of all the things that labor economists analyze and gather data on, this would be one of the simplest to do. If we really wanted to, you or I could even do it by making a bunch of phone calls. As for the difference in quality / services, if it's measurable, it can be accounted for. If it's not measurable, people wouldn't be paying extra for it since they have no idea they are getting anything better. In theory, one of the lawn care services would simply lower their prices and grab more market share, forcing everyone else to either follow suit or lose business. Cheaper labor would/should drive down the price of any service. Who are "the liberals" you're referring to?
This ain't OPEC dude - one company could simply lower it's profit margin and take over. Capitalism's "invisible hand" and all that...
residential lawn services cutting 1/2 acre yards aren't cutting with the SERIOUS efficient commercial mowers.
And everyone who jaywalks should be ticketed. The problem with this argument is that it shows that the law is out of touch with the reality.
I think the laws against illegal immigration are good. Being tough on illegals is smart. Make it really hard - nearly impossible to get into the U.S. I am all for it. In fact, make it harder. But once they are here, I think they should be accepted. Think about it. The people who come into this country illegally aren't people who are just looking to rob and steal. They are people willing to go through massive hardships, leave everything behind, including family and friends, to take some below-minimum wage job to have a CHANCE at making it big. They have to go through so much just to get here. They are not criminals, they are the cream of the crop in terms of Mexican work ethic. The process in getting here is a weedout process. It's natural selection at it's finest. They work their asses off. I say, give them a chance at the American dream. If they have done all that to make it here - great. and if they can take jobs away from us, that's shame on us. If we're so great, and some joe schmo can't compete with an unskilled labororer, heck, maybe we should be deporting joe to Mexico. I'd rather take the illegal immigrant who is willing to work 3 jobs at a chance of carving out a better life than the guy who'd rather sit on his porch and complain all day while he's on his lazy ass.
I stopped reading at "Newsweek"... You know there is no other country in the world that thinks its "OK" for illegal immigrants to be given a free pass. Heck most of the third world countries I have traveled to have stricter enforcement on immigration laws then the USA does. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the politicians are involved in some serious racketeering here and should all be sent home and replaced with people who actually care about America and its sovereignty....
I stopped reading when you implied that people think it's ok for illegal immigrants to be given a free pass.
Which is the biggest reason that you are so ill informed. When the only news sources you trust are Fox and the right wing bloggers that form the echo chamber around Fox, you won't have an accurate view of the world around you. Even the liberals that you decry don't think illegal immigrants should be given a "free pass," this is nothing more than a straw man. So, you think we should be more like third world countries? Apparently, it takes more than someone with a BS degree because I don't see even the hint or "racketeering" (Definition: racketeer: A person who commits crimes such as extortion, loansharking, bribery, and obstruction of justice in furtherance of illegal business activities.).
Certainly we shouldn't stop people from entering, I mean this is supposed to be the refuge for people who have no where else to go. However, we can't just let everyone in without documenting it. We need to cut our defense spending and put some more into the budget for border security and domestic issues. Crime is not what bothers me with illegals. There are two main things that bother me, first off it is illegal, the principle of the matter is that it is breaking the law. Second, taxes, certainly illegals contribute to sales taxes, but they don't pay many other taxes and they use our schools, our hospitals, that OUR dollars paid for.
Interesting logic. So you now believe we should model ourselves after other countries. No other industrialized country in the world thinks its OK not to have universal health care either. I assume, based on your logic, you are all for universal health care as well? And higher taxes to provide a stronger social safety net?
Most illegals do pay income tax, they don't ask for refunds, they do pay gas tax, etc. There are articles linked in this thread and other threads that talk about that. Even with schools, hospitals etc. They contribute more than they take out.
