Do you think both teams would be willing to make the following deal?: Toronto trades: Hedo Turkoglu (owed 4 more years, $43.8M) for New York trades: Eddy Curry ($11.28M expiring contract), $3M cash and a second round pick THIS may actually be a way that New York could get Bosh in a sign-and-trade. Still, I don't see that happening.
I don't get it... These Players get a multi million dollar CONTRACT and they want out, a raise, or a trade. Only in sports do you see most of these guys crying that they want out. Is a contract not worth anything anymore.
Bosh Hedo for Battier Andersen Jeffries Hill Trade exceptions? (how do they work again?) Yao / quality free agent or rookie Bosh / Scola Ariza / Turkoglu Martin / Budinger Brooks / Lowry And we still might have Hayes and Taylor and the Knicks picks We would be solid at EVERY position AND still have assets to make one more impact move to send us over the top. With just Bosh and Turkoglu added we would probably make the WCF.
He's that playmaking wing that we desperatly need ever since T-Mac left. With Brooks starting at point guard, we will not go far. Brooks' game would vastley improve with Hedo on the court.
I would so do that trade! I would replace Battier with Ariza, but Toronto might want Battier's expiring contract. Also, Hedo has played for Adelman before. A match made in heaven!
I quietly suspect that if you're lauding Turkey Glue's playmaking in Toronto, you haven't watched him while he was in Toronto. At all. And that's not even mentioning that he's been a complete cancer for Toronto this year, and his contract is one of the three dumbest in the league. I would not give up ANY assets if I had to take back Turkoglu in a Bosh trade, which since that is inherently impossible due to the need to make salaries match, would mean I would not take back Turkoglu period..
He wasn't properly used in Toronto. He was used as primarely a spot up shooter, which he isn't. He is an oversized pointguard. He flourised with Orlando because Nelson wasn't a traditional point guard, similar to Brooks. While at Toronto, his game sucked because he was paired with a more traditional pointguard in Jack and Calderon. His playmaking skills are impeccable and you can't take that away from him. He just wasn't used properly.
i hate crap like this...teams should not be expected to buy out a player who wants out. If a team is pushing you out, fine, but if a player just got his feelings hurt, then he should be giving nothing more than the opportunity to leave and not millions of dollars. He may not be a young guy, but he's acting like one. What did he think a contract was?
If Toronto were to buy him out and even pay him nothing the money would still count against their cap no?
A release is completely different to a buy out, in this situation his contract would be voided due to him requesting the release (like Derek Fisher with Utah). So if Hedo has $40 million remaining over the course of 4 years, is released, and finds a team willing to pay him $20 million over the next 3 (4th year team option), then the Raptors would save $20 million. It's the new contract subtracted from the remaining amount on the original contract. I don't have the exact specifics of the "release" clause so I'm probably a bit off.
We already have two pgs in the team, neither of which is a liability on D like Hedo. Also Hedo is overrated. Sure he can playmake, but his D is worse than Nash, and its compounded by the fact that he plays the wing position, where almost all of the prime time scoring players play (LBJ, Kobe, Durant, Carmelo, Pierce, Allen etc.). A playmaker who isnt athletic enough to drive inside and isn't a consistent outside threat isn't really all that great (i.e. Conley Jr). Add to that his liability on D and his hideous contract and he's pretty much a negative, his attitude towards the team notwithstanding. I'd only take him off the Raptor's hands if Bosh came with him, and only if the things going Raptor's way are expiring contracts and filler.
I just want to first say that I wouldn't want Hedo either but I just had to laugh at your post. Especially the part were your said that neither of our two PGs are a liability on D. That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Brooks was one of the biggest liabilities on the defensive end for this team. Now while I will admit that I didn't watch Hedo much last year, in his previous years he WAS athletic enough to drive inside and a very consistent outside threat. Forget Dwight Howard, if it wasn't for Hedo's play the year before, the Magic wouldn't have made it to the Finals.
It would definitely help them get Bosh. Hedo would want an immediate release in NY also, since he would be riding pine for LeBron. I agree with you, though. It's not likely to happen. The trade would kill all possibility of a Curry trade in February for some veteran players.
No, it would not. Two examples: (1) Vassilis Spanoulis - By agreeing to void his contract, Spanoulis gave up the remaining two years on his contract with the Rockets. That salary was NOT going to count against the Rockets' cap. However, Daryl Morey was savvy enough to turn that cap relief into Luis Scola, by trading Spanoulis's soon-to-be-voided contract to San Antonio and also taking back Jackie Butler's mildly bad contract, saving the Spurs a few million but netting the Rockets a high quality power forward. (2) Derek Fisher - While still in the middle of a full MLE contract in Utah (that he originally signed with the Warriors), Fisher asked that his contract be voided so that he and his family could move from Salt Lake City to Los Angeles to pursue better medical care for his infant daughter, who was diagnosed with some serious eye disease. The Jazz accommodated him, and his rather large contract was wiped off the Jazz's books. Fisher is a much bigger example of this than Spanoulis. If Hedo were to have his contract voided (which I could NEVER see happening - he wouldn't leave THAT much money on the table), it would be an exponentially bigger example than Fisher. Like others have said, the players union will have something to say to Hedo about this if he decides to pursue voiding his contract. But, no, that money would NOT count against the cap if Hedo's contract is voided. Now, if Hedo is BOUGHT OUT, then whatever his buyout amount is would be allocated over the life of his contract. Hope this answers your question.
