And in context to what he is going to do with the rest of his career. "Kanye was interested in saying two things about the album. Firstly, that it shows he wants to be remembered like "those artists in black and white photos", the McCartneys and Jaggers of this world; he wants longevity, huge crowds and tight trousers. This is certainly ambitious, but perhaps also a little disheartening. Kanye is a hip-hop producer whose music has forced millions of people who might not normally listen to a rap record to change their opinion of a genre. Now he's saying hip-hop's too easy and the real challenge is to make music like Phil Collins did. So much for hip-hop for life. Presumably as a result of his masterplan, Kanye's second point is that he doesn't want to rap, he wants to sing. And in doing so he wants to use Autotune. A whole lot. This consistent remodelling of his voice, on every track of the album, makes Kanye sound like a reedier T-Pain. He describes this as being the Heartbreak element of the album. Which, I have to say, I can understand. On up to half a dozen occasions last night he said that the break with both rapping and a recognisable voice was a "**** you" to the haters, the critics, the bloggers and, perhaps, even Cher. "Artists are like suckers," he said, elaborating on his point. "They listen to Radiohead all day but go and make just another rap album. I say: don't let society box you in." That certainly hasn't happened on 808s & Heartbreak but, at the same time, it's hardly revolutionary. It seems unlikely there'll be fans shouting "Judas!" or causing a Stravinskian riot when the album is released. After all, it might lack rapping but it's not short on the sheen and aural bling that has helped Kanye become a stadium- (or Dome) sized artist. Kanye West may have grown bored of hip-hop (though Jay-Z's Blueprint 3, produced by Kanye, is only just around the corner), but he commands an audience big enough to follow him out of the genre. It's just a shame he thinks the only way he can leave a lasting legacy is by aspiring to create a 21st-century Sussudio." For a guy that has switched to "Pop Art" so early in his career, it makes me wonder If his earlier music might have been influenced as such? That's the impression I get when I listen to his music.
That's what people expected, but as everyone including Pete Rock, DJ Premier, and everyone else who's been working on this album, they say that it's a completely different feel. No auto-tone, no singing, none of that. This new album is hip-hop, which is what all these guys have been saying. Pete Rock a great hip-hop producer one of the biggest ever is quoted as saying that Good Ass Job will be hip hop. Even beyond that, it's hard to say that this new song isn't hip hop. You can hear the King Crimson sample he used.
"F-ck SNL and the whole cast Tell ‘em Yeezy said they can kiss my whole ass More specifically, they can kiss my ******* I’m an *******? You n-ggas got jokes You short-minded n-ggas’ thoughts is Napoleon My furs is Mongolian, my ice brought the goalies in Now I embody every characteristic of the egotistic He know, he so, f-ckin’ gifted I just needed time alone, with my own thoughts Got treasures in my mind but couldn’t open up my own vault" Tupac and Big L are rolling in their graves If this is the state of Hip Hop...
I doubt it considering these are some of Big L's lyrics: Leave 'em empty, I cruise through Harlem in an M3 Never pay for parties, say my name and I'm in free I'm on some 100-G car ****, superstar **** Selling *****s that wet **** right out the jar **** I'm dumb hot, I'll wreck you and your young flock Keep the gun ****, represent one block
The profanity does not bother me, it is the lack of complex rhyme schemes and overall lack of intelligence and creativity in his verses. His delivery is also decidedly subpar, but his production makes for good poppy dance parties...
I like the old Kanye. College Drop Out was a good album. One of my favs, and "homecoming" that my jam!
can we put the "what is real hip-hop" debate to rest? i've never understood why this genre is so obsessed with defining itself. why can't there be different types of hip-hop?
I dunno, some people just want to box their art in a corner and then sit around arguing about stupid sh-t. "What is real hip-hop?" Jesus... Just ignore 'em. Anyway, like the song, though Kanye's capable of better lyrically. Hope the rest of the album is good.
cool king crimson sample =) 808s and heartbreak is a great album There is no Gucci I can buy There is no Louis Vuitton to put on There is no YSL that they could sell To get my heart out of this hell And my mind out of this jail There is no clothes that I could buy That could turn back the time There is no vacation spot I could fly That could bring back a piece of real life Real life, what does it feel like? I ask you tonight, I ask you tonight What does it feel like, I ask you tonight To live a real life I just want to be a real boy They always say Kanye, he keeps it real boy Pinocchio story is, I just want to be a real boy Pinocchio story is to be a real boy
I don't feel like making a new thread so this song was just leaked of Drake's new album. Normally don't listen to Drake that much but he's collaborating with HOVA so, give it listen. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ISDsE70EyWI&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ISDsE70EyWI&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>
