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Dwyane Wade questions Bulls' loyalty to former players

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by AstroRocket, May 27, 2010.

  1. Melechesh

    Melechesh Member

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    Wade is not leaving Miami. Book it.
     
  2. Fyreball

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    I'm praying that Amar'e decides to join Wade in Miami, and LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland, which would leave the door wide open for us to convince Bosh to come play in Houston. Pipe dreams have to start somewhere, right?
     
  3. ommy48

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    Wade is an idiot who is probably butt-hurt that Chicago has turned its sights on Lebron James as their #1 target, when it was assumed that he was going to be the Bulls primary target just a month ago. His comments certainly aren't congruent with reality as the article below enumerates how the Bulls organization is in fact loyal to most of its former players to a fault:


    Break up of the dynasty still weighing on the Bulls

    Doug Thonus on 05.27.10 at 6:54 AM | 55 comments

    Per Freddy Mitchell:

    "I think the biggest question that you think about has to be loyalty," said Wade, a Richards grad who added he has been a Bulls fan for a long time. "I know one thing about Miami: It is a very loyal organization. I see what they do with their players when their players get done with the game of basketball ... how loyal they are. I don't know about the Bulls."

    "I see Michael Jordan is not there, Scottie Pippen is not there. ... You know, these guys are not a part," Wade said. "Things like that. So that is probably one of the biggest things for me, because I am a very loyal person."

    What strikes me most about this, is that I find the Bulls are an exceptionally loyal organization. However, the bad vibes of the dynasty's breakup have come back to haunt them yet again.

    Not loyal to Scottie Pippen? We signed and traded him for absolute junk just to get him a better a contract at his next destination. We then paid him 10 million dollars to come back later on when he was absolutely done, but also absolutely broke. He could only play for one of the years on the deal. The team basically did him a huge favor because of his debt problems.

    John Paxson currently serves as the Bulls executive vice president, and the Bulls have stuck by him despite a pretty crazy episode with Vinny Del Negro. They also have a very, very strong history of promoting from within according to the people I know who work there. They gave Bill Cartwright a job as an assistant and eventually named him head coach despite not being particularly qualified for the job.

    B.J. Armstrong had a job as assistant general manager for awhile working with Jerry Krause. Notice that when he left, B.J. Armstrong has not gone on to work as a G.M. elsewhere.

    Pete Myers presently works as an assistant coach for the Bulls forever as well.

    They paid out Jay Williams contract when they didn't have to after he voided his contract in the way that he injured himself. In the end though, it really comes back to the bitter feelings about the team's breakup.

    The Bulls have employed Bob Love for as long as I can remember as their director of community relations despite the fact that he has a speech impediment.

    In fact, pretty much the only example of a "lack of loyalty" is that they didn't make Jordan GM or owner when he retired. I doubt the Heat are giving Wade an ownership share for free or making him general manager when he retires either.

    Jordan simply wouldn't take any other position with the Bulls, and when he found a deal he liked with the Wizards he grabbed it. If you want to complain about a lack of loyalty blame the Wizards for milking Jordan as a player when he unretired to play for peanuts and then failing to give him his GM job/ownership stake back.

    In the end, the perception is out there. I don't think it's fair, but there it is.
     
  4. juicystream

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    Can we be a little less loyal to Clyde?
     
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  5. waytookrzy079

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    all of these big name FA's only care about their PAYCHECK. They dont care about the championship.. its all an act. If these big named guys REALLY didnt care about the money, they would all agree to join ONE team with a big pay cut.

    Imagine a team with Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Johnson, and fillers... that team would beat the Bulls 72-10 record! If they all agreed to make 6-8mil/year... that team would be unstoppable for years.
     
  6. jevjnd

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    Or does he see how players are "assets" and it's purely a business?

     
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  7. McGradySNKT

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    There is no loyalty in today's NBA

    Teams will drop you on the hat of a dime and trade you for pocket money or future money relief.

    You'll have to uproot your family on a dime and start all over in another city..

    Wade is giving a weird excuse unless it bothers him that the management was so shady that they couldn't have and didn't kept guys like MJ and Pip around who did everything for them.
     
  8. DreamShook

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    Where are all the people that say that Houston isn't Loyal to their old players?

    Seems all our old players are still around is some capacity in Houston.
     
  9. ASidd_1990

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    too be fair, would you want to go to a team where the general manager and coach physically assaulted each other? If they can do something like that, what makes you think they won't pull a move that is irrational.

    These things have to be in consideration when you are going to spend the prime of your career in that organization.

    If these free agents are smart, they should demand a sign and trade to Houston, IMO.

    We've got the triple threat:
    Great Owner
    Great GM
    Great Coach

    Also, they would help out their former team by giving them talent and draft picks as well, without having to gut our team.
     
  10. Rocket Guy

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    Agree. Hell, we can't get bob sura to stop coming to the games.
     
  11. ASidd_1990

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    Houston is the most loyal franchise in the league!

    We don't kick our players to the curb after their retirement.
     
  12. saleem

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    I think he isn't confident with the ownership of the Bulls. He trusts Riley. Everyone knows what happened between Paxson and Vinny Del Negro.
    If Miami gets Bosh,or Boozer/Amare and another good role player,he might end up staying there. If not,he will probably leave reluctantly.
     
  13. jlwee

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    Wade claims he is a loyal person and talks about leaving the Heat. hmmmmm :confused:
     
  14. Clutch

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    Paycheck may be first or top priority, but the "big name FA's" can get any one of the 30 teams to agree to give them max money. The only strategic element in the deal is getting your current team to play ball in a sign-and-trade.

    So with "how much" not really a major issue for the top guys, I think they are going to look to other factors -- team fit, winning, marketability, city, climate -- as difference makers. Of course, I guess you could look at all of those elements as being tied to "how much they make" beyond the max salary from the team they sign with.
     
  15. durvasa

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    LOL .. that is funny. :)
     

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