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Stockton/Malone or Nash/Stoudemire?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by durvasa, May 20, 2010.

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Greater Duo?

  1. Stockton and Malone

    151 vote(s)
    83.9%
  2. Nash and Stoudemire

    29 vote(s)
    16.1%
  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Who would you say is the greater offensive duo?

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  2. Chamillionaire

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    any pg and pf is better than the j*zz combo.
     
  3. mickey_angelo

    mickey_angelo Member

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    This really shouldn't even be a comparison. Stockton/Malone was an actual duo (think Batman/Robin) while Nash/Stoudemire is more a like a team-up(Superman/Batman...umm but not quite)
     
  4. professorjay

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    Stockton/Malone easily.

    I get offended just by hearing their names.
     
  5. Chamillionaire

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    which is why i would vote for just about anyone else.

    francis + yao > any j*zz combo.
     
  6. Cokebabies

    Cokebabies Member

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    Is this even a serious question? If you voted for Nash/Amare, you must have been born in 1990 or later.
     
  7. Asian Sensation

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    Come on Durvasa you're better than that. As much as we all hate the Jazz the Stockton/Malone duo was pretty legendary.
     
  8. ryano2009

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    well ofcourse I hate to admit it, but I would say the j*zz combo.
     
  9. ryano2009

    ryano2009 Member

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    Agree.
     
  10. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Good point. I suggest we just make this into a thread about how awesome Stockton and Malone were.
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    Stockton and Nash are on a similar level.

    Malone is significantly better than Stoudemire.

    So, gotta go with Stockton/Malone.
     
  12. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Just to be clear, I meant which duo was better offensively. I know that from a defensive standpoint, Stockton and Malone were miles ahead.
     
  13. clippy

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    Nash is by far the best offensive player of that group.. not even close. Despite the two MVPs he's severely underrated as an offensive force-- statistically he's the best shooter ever and he's one of the best passers ever. I think if you swapped him for Stockton the Jazz would have improved (even though Stockton was a better defender).

    But as a duo, Stockton/Malone because Amare is a lot more limited than Malone (less range, no post game, far less aggressive).
     
  14. OGKashMoney

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    I just voted for the Stockton/Malone, so now I have to download a virus to kill this computer! :mad:
     
  15. jsonic6

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    As much as I hate to say this but... it's not even close...

    CLICK Karl Malone

    * Karl Malone was elected into the Naismith Hall of Fame in 2010.
    * Stockton and Malone shattered many NBA records while playing together.
    o Stockton holds the NBA record for most career assists and steals, whereas Malone holds the records for most free throws attempted and made; he is first all-time in defensive rebounds, as well as being second all-time on the NBA career scoring list, behind only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
    o Both he and Stockton were selected to be a part of the Dream Team, the legendary 1992 U.S. Olympic basketball team that was the first to feature professional NBA players. They are two-time Olympic Gold medalists, having won one in 1992 and another 1996 in Atlanta.
    o Both hold many records of longevity, having faced very few long-term injuries in their careers and having played for 19 seasons each.
    o Between them, they hold almost every major statistical record for the Utah Jazz franchise.
    o Between them, they played 1412 games together, most by far for any teammates in NBA history.
    * Malone received the NBA Most Valuable Player Award twice while playing for the Jazz, in the 1997 and 1999 seasons.
    * Voted in 1996 to the NBA's 50 Greatest Players list.
    * Voted to 11 All-NBA first teams, two second teams and one third team.
    * Voted an All-Star 14 times. MVP of the All-Star game in 1989 and co-MVP in 1993 with Stockton.
    * Voted to three NBA All-Defensive first teams and one second team.
    * Malone was ranked #18 on Slam Magazine's Top 50 NBA Players of all time in 2009.
    * Played in 1476 games (fourth all-time), averaging 37.2 minutes, 51% shooting from the floor, 74% from the free throw line, 25.0 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.6 assists, and 1.41 steals per game.
    * His 1412 games played in a Jazz uniform are second most all-time (to Stockton's 1504) for games played for a single franchise.
    * Recorded a record eleven consecutive seasons in which he scored at least 2,000 points. No other player has come close to this achievement.
    * His jersey number (#32) was retired by the Utah Jazz in Salt Lake City on March 23, 2006.
    * A bronze statue depicting Malone was dedicated on March 23, 2006 on the southeast corner of the EnergySolutions Arena block, next to the one depicting John Stockton.

    CLICK John Stockton

    Stockton, a 10-time NBA All-Star, commandingly holds the NBA record for career assists with 15,806 (10.5 per game). Stockton also holds the record for assists-per-game average over one season (14.5 in 1990), and is one of three players who have logged more than 1,000 assists in one season, joining Kevin Porter (1,099 in 1979) and Isiah Thomas (1,123 in 1985) in the exclusive list. Stockton did this seven times, with season totals of 1,164, 1,134, 1,128, 1,126, 1,118, 1,031 and 1,011 assists.[7]

    He and Karl Malone are regarded by many as the quintessential pick and roll duo. Apart from his passing skill, Stockton was also a capable scorer (13.1 points per game career average and a .515 career shooting percentage) with a reliable three-point shot (.384 lifetime average). He is 30th on the all-time NBA scoring list with 19,711 career points.[8] Despite the fact that he never pulled down more than 9 rebounds (or recorded more than 9 steals) during a regular season game, he recorded one career triple double, in a playoff game against the Dallas Mavericks on April 28, 2001. He scored 12 points, pulled down 11 rebounds and had 10 assists.

    On defense, Stockton holds the NBA record for career steals with 3,265, nearly 30 percent more than second placed Michael Jordan, who had 2,514.[9]

    Stockton was known for his unassuming, no-nonsense approach to the game, hard-nosed defense, and fanatical work-ethic in preparation, which resulted in his extreme durability. He played 1,504 of 1,526 possible games in his 19-season career. In his first 13 seasons, he missed only four games (all in the 1989-1990 season) until he missed the first 18 games of the 1997-1998 season due to an injured MCL in his left knee sustained in the preseason. That was the only major injury in his career and he never missed another game after returning from that injury. In his last season at age 41, he started in all 82 games, and finished with more-than-respectable averages of 10.8 ppg and 7.7 apg. His 1,504 NBA games played are currently also the most all-time for a career spent with only one team.

    Stockton avoided endorsements, and stayed loyal to Utah despite being offered significantly more money by other teams. In 1996 he agreed to a deal that made salary-cap space available so the team could improve, but insisted on guaranteed Delta Center ice time for his son's hockey team.[10]

    On May 11, 2006, ESPN.com named Stockton the 4th best point guard of all time.[11]
     
  16. Cokebabies

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    You are forgetting that Nash is playing in a guards era where you aren't allowed to play physical. I agree that he is a better shooter but Nash would be alot less effective offensively playing in Stockton's era.
     
  17. TheShooter

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    Amare and Nash are more entertaining but Stockton and Malone were more productive.
     
  18. pmac

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    I get the feeling you're a closet jazz fan, anyway. :p
     
  19. Melechesh

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    Nash is probably as good as Stockton offensively, but I would give Stockton the edge because he's one of the few point guards that could set a mean screen (thanks to Jerry Sloan). If Amar'e had never injured his knee, he could've been better than Malone offensively, without that same explosion he's just a good offensive player right now.
     
  20. Melechesh

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    Derek Fisher and Bruce Bowen plays physical against Steve Nash, and he struggles against both of them.
     

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