One issue with Momma Smokey idea....she was buried with MIB after getting knifed, and MIB had to lose his physical body to become Smokey. How could she keep her real body and be Smokey at the same time?
I thought about that problem as well. Dogan seemed to think that stabbing Flocke with the knife would kill him, just like it did with "mother". It didn't, so maybe that means "mother" wasn't Smokey after all. But if Flocke did die, what would be left? Would it just turn into smoke and dissipate into the air? Or would a tangible corpse be left? And if a corpse were left, would it be in the form of his old body or would it be in the form of Locke? We don't know the answers to these question. For the theory to be correct, it would have to be that if Smokey gets killed while in human form, he would become a human (or human looking) corpse. I could see that being possible. I understand about Smokey leaving his real body behind, but he does take the form of physical bodies so I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he could leave behind a physical corpse. My question is, if multiple people went into the "light cave", would we end up with multiple smoke entities?
Maybe she can be killed because she has already been replaced as the island protector by Jacob. She says "thank you" after MIB kills her, so I guess that was her plan all along.
Lost's Mark Pellegrino: There Will Be More Answers May 12, 2010 02:03 PM ET by Natalie Abrams16 Comments This week's mythos-heavy episode of Lost left fans with — you guessed it — more questions than answers. With just two episodes remaining before we find whether the show's mysteries will ever be explained or if its producers have just been messing with us, we tracked down Jacob himself, Mark Pellegrino. He talks about who's good, who's bad, the father of Jacob and the man/boy in black (Titus Welliver), and whether any of it matters. TVGuide.com: Last night's Lost was quite the head scratcher. Pellegrino: I've been hearing that. I've been hearing quite a bit about that. [Laughs] TVGuide.com: A lot of fans griped after the episode because they still felt confused about the mythology. Will there be more explanation in the last few episodes? Pellegrino: There will be. There will be some ends tied, but I can't guarantee that for everyone. People have been debating the meaning of the show and the various subplots for years, and I wonder if all of the questions are going to be answered. That's a tall order, but I think many people will be satisfied. TVGuide.com: All along we thought Jacob was a good guy, but he's not as good as we thought. Pellegrino: On a certain level, the line between good and evil has an indistinctive blurring. I think there's a lot of crossover in the show. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not good, though. Things will become clearer in the next episode, definitely. I think you'll make up your mind one way or the other for sure, but it's not going to be clean and pristine. You'll definitely come down on one side or the other. TVGuide.com: How did Jacob go from a mama's boy to a man of confidence? Pellegrino: I think there's a transformation that takes place when my mother gives me the wine. It opens certain doors for me. I think living for almost 2000 years — just the simple act of living, thinking and turning over ideas — can lead, hopefully, to a kind of wisdom. TVGuide.com: Why can Jacob leave the island, as he's done to visit his candidates, but the Man in Black cannot? Pellegrino: This is a question that I've wondered about myself actually. I don't think the answer is directly provided in any episode, but it could be the fact that I'm a guardian of sorts and therefore have a certain power to exit when I want to. He can leave as long as it's directly for a certain purpose. After I threw the Man in Black in the pit, he's chained there. He's become incorporeal, and he's in something worse than hell. TVGuide.com: Does the Man in Black still view Jacob as a brother? Pellegrino: I think he does. There's still that brotherly bond between the two of them. Even though The Man in Black has changed dramatically and he's gone from loving me to wanting me dead, there's still that bond between us. TVGuide.com: Who's their daddy and does it matter? Pellegrino: Some Roman, I imagine. Does it matter? No, I think in the end, no. I like to think that my daddy is Marcus Aurelius. TVGuide.com: I'm sure you can't say who takes Jacob's place as the guardian of the island, but can you say whether someone will actually take up the position? Pellegrino: That remains to be seen. TVGuide.com: Will we see Jacob again before the end of the series? Pellegrino: You will be seeing me some more, yes. Who's side are you on: Jacob or the Man in Black's? Stay tuned for Part 2 of our interview with Pellegrino where he dissects what's ahead for the Supernatural finale and what Jacob and Lucifer have in common. http://www.tvguide.com/News/Lost-Mark-Pellegrino-1018362.aspx
Not sure if this was posted but it is a lengthy breakdown of the last episode http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-i-noticed-across-sea-by-vozzek69.html
Yeah, been posted. I just got finished reading this one: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20368574,00.html
That was pretty good, but far from complete. As someone already mentioned it doesn't explain how the mother could have been the smoke monster while also being in a corporeal human body. I am more inclined to believe she could summon the smoke monster.
I want to talk about the significance of Locke and the knife/knives/MiB connection. I think maybe there's something there, but I don't have it all figured out yet. Of course I could totally be just making something out of nothing. The knife that the original brother(MiB) had that killed his mother was the same one given to one of Losties. He was told to kill Faux Locke before he spoke with it. When Faux Locke was a kid Richard asked him to chose among some different items. The item young Locke chose was a knife. Richard was disappointed and told Locke that perhaps Locke wasn't who he thought or wasn't ready or something like that. So from the most recent episode it seems like black smoke takes over Brother in Black's body, and later takes over John Locke's body. They both had or chose the knife at some point in their lives. Now what I find interesting is that in the Los Angeles of the alternate reality John Locke is at the lost luggage area because the airline lost his knives. Is that significant? Is it symbolic of anything? Just musing. This stuff probably isn't really significant at all, but I wondered.
The best possible ending to this show would be a reveal that the real writers of the show are a couple of 3rd graders. That's the only way to explain everything tidily.
so you're saying you can't get the writings of a 3rd grader? I've followed this series from the get go and I admit that there are times when the series infuriates me to no end but I also know that I got frustrated because I wanted answers-I wanted to figure out the puzzle. That's what makes/made Lost great--it makes you want to ask questions and think. If I had wanted to watch a show where everything was spoon fed to me without any connection from one episode to the next, I would have picked some other show to watch. I'm sure the finale won't answer all the questions but I hope they will at least answer the major ones. After all, the last time I was immersed in a tv/movie story and had demanded answers from it's finale, I got Matrix Revolutions.
"St. Elsewhere" ending - Everything is a figment of Hurley's imagination, who is still in the nuthouse. Super Lame Ending - It ends up the the whole thing was a book that Saywer was reading on the beach. The camera pans out and they reveal that it's still only the 3rd day on the island.
GUYS, here's whats going to happen.. i dont need to spoiler alert cause its obvious... Hurley becomes jacob... when he goes into the cave a bunch of confetti and balloons drop.. Simon cowell walks out with a giant check and explains that the island is made of unicorn droppings and that HURLEY JUST WON SURVIVOR: BERMUDA TRIANGLE then hurley looks at the check and its $814,152,342 then he shoots himself in the face THE END...
Like anything magical or metaphysical, once you learn the physics or mechanics of it, it loses it's mysticism and charm. So, we are not going to learn the basis or origin of the Island's power. Even though, the physicist seemed to have some mathematical descriptions of it and can predict some of it's phenomena. But somehow, the Island seems to have it's own consciousness since there has to be a beginning to the orchestration of human events. The Island knows it needs to keep men from exploiting the light so it empowers humans as it's protector. The "why" would seem like a the big reveal and would be satisfying enough without the how.
Oh, man, what a stinker. I've been traveling all week and only just watched last week's episode. Maybe because of my layoff, I've been really, really, really hungry for the new episode, and boy did that leave me disappointed. I have no problem with the explanations. I have no problem with the decision to feature 0 of the regulars. (As someone else said, ballsy.) I have a problem with the execution. The acting of the mother (Allison Janey - CJ from the West Wing, was bugging me the first 20 minutes until I connected) was atrocious. She was AWFUL. And the kids were wretched. The boyhood Jacob/MIB were just lousy. The dialogue wasn't up to snuff. The emotional beats weren't there. Theoretically, this should have been as good as the Richard episode. (Character we barely know in a big old myth-flashback.) But the emotional stakes weren't established. With Richard, it was concrete, it was compelling. (The whole wife stuff.) With Jacob/MIB, it was so abstract without any real grounding. The character motivations were floating, unmoored. Look, I'm one of the biggest Lost kool-aid drinkers. Up until this very moment I've had faith that the writers will pull this off. Now? For the first time since the end of Season 3 (when the show really kicked into high gear), I'm nervous. This was a big misfire at one of the worst possible times. Hopefully things get back on track next week.
Oh, on a more positive note: Before I started traveling i rewatched a bunch of old episodes. A few comments, and a few recommendations of things to rewatch (they're all available on Netflix Instant Streaming if you have it): 1. Every season finale has been excellent. On a rainy Saturday afternoon I literally watched all 5 season finales (including 2-hours for each, sometimes 3), and wow, they all kick ass. Some people were meh on Season 1, but rewatching it I thought it was terrific. Seriously, this wasn't a bad way to really geek-out on the show in prepration for the finale, and it's cool to see all the old school characters (Michael, Walt, Charlie, Shannon, Boone.) And this gives me confidence that the writers will nail the end -- so far, in my book, they're 5 for 5 with climaxes. 2. One episode in particular I implore you all to watch: the Season 3, Desmond-centric episode Flashes Before Your Eyes. I don't want to spoil it (even though you've seen it before), but man, not only is it terrific in its own right, I think it just might be the key to the flash-sideways. Also, there's one line in particular that sent a chill down my spine, and shows that the writers really have been planning The End Game for at least 3 years. Seriously. Do yourself a favor. Watch that episode -- it's a fun reminder of some old school Lost, and it really does tie into Season 6. 3. For those of you who like the music of Lost -- I bought the soundtrack to Season 5. It's awesome and epic. Listened to it about 14 times in the last week. (Pretty funny to listen to it while traveling to airport, as it gives a mythic feeling, like you're going to LAX or whatever to meet the Oceanic 6.) Okay. Jesus. That was probably the geekiest thing I've ever written, or that anyone has ever written, ever. Time to get back to my regularly scheduled life....
