So if I call a white hispanic a 'spic' or 'beaner,' am I technically not a racist? Now I gotta change my undies!
I think Flocke was lying about not being able to leave without them, I think he cannot leave as long as a candidate is alive, like, as long as Jacob or a candidate to replace Jacob is alive they control his ability to leave. Since he directly cannot kill a candidate, like he could not directly kill Jacob, he had to concoct a plan to have them kill themselves. Which muddies up the statement at the end where he said , " I am going to finish the job". He either means the Widmore clan or is stating another plan to have someone kill the candidates. The immortal last words of Frank J. Lapidus : "Aw Hell".
My only issue is that I thought they couldnt kill themselves either. (or at least Jack) Remember when Richard wanted Jack to kill him and the dynamite failed? It seemed like Jack was unable to kill himself either.
I listen to that podcats as well, they're not bad. My only complaint is that Jack is always going on with ridiculous theories. As for the race thing, you can play the semantics game, but truth is most people look at Hispanics as a minority. So for the sake of the original argument, I'm gonna count Hurley as the lone minority left. Sorry I can't tell which part of Europe the others ancestry comes from. Couple of questions though, how is Kate off the list? She's not dead. Also, how come Flocke couldn't kill Desmond? He's not a candidate, is he? Is he Wallace? I know he's the constant, but it hasn't been hit on in the rules.
Is what Jack said correct? Did Sawyer tampering with the bomb allow Flocke to indirectly attack them? Would the bomb have exploded if they just watched it count down and did nothing?
The fact is, we don't really know the rules, where they come from, etc... To me, these are some of the more important questions left in terms of plot development.
They can kill each other and Sawyer didn't die so the "rules" were not broken. But Flock's plan seemed to be that the bomb would kill them all (when they tried to diffuse the bomb). But he must have known that whoever pulled the wires would not be killed. Yes, it will be cool if next week's episode tells us what the rules are, why they exist and who makes or enforces them. Well, I guess The Island enforces them. I don't read too many other Lost threads but I would appreciate some clarification on who the factions are. Jacob= Good MIB = Evil Flocke is ... what? He seems like an agent of the MIB trying to free it (them) onto the world but they don't ever communicate. The Island is .. what sort of power? (seems like a time/space warp but with a Consciousness?) Widmore ... was an Other (agents of Jacob) that got off the Island and understands it and now wants to come back to .... what? He's already as rich and powerful as he can be. You can always want to live forever but an unending life roaming the jungle doesn't seem that attractive as per Richard. Richard - manipulated by Jacob to do his bidding, but that doesn't appear to be "Good", in fact what he has done to him seems pretty evil. The candidates - around to keep MIB and Flock contained and see to the welfare of the Island. Become Jacob, = Good?
Either way, Flocke see's in the future! Man how in the world did he know Jack would go on that sub? When Jack started to walk near it Flocke tossed him his bag with the C4 and he KNEW that Jack would get on the sub when in fact Jack was saying he had no intention to. Badass poker risk by mister Locke!
Well, Flocke couldn't kill Jacob (a candidate?) by himself and needed Ben Linus. I think Jack is right, he cannot kill the Candidates by himself and needs the hands of someone else acting for him. Btw, Sayid went Chris Johnson on this one!
As far as we can tell. We've been led to believe that but I wouldn't be completely shock if they flipped it at the end. Again, it seems that way. MIB was once the physical/human form of the smoke monster. Locke is now the physical/human form of Smokey who has also taken other human forms (Christian, Yemi, Dave?). MIB = Smokey = Flocke. Widmore was the leader of the others and was exiled for having a family off the island (Penny). Ben replaced him as the leader of the the others. Widmore has been trying to get back to the island ever since. I think his financial success has all been a means for him to try to return. Basically. Keep evil trapped on the island to save the rest of the world. Be Yin to Smokey's Yang.
In the time they went to go find another way to blow up the plane, the rest of the losties: Met up with Locke Had their meeting Planned an assault on Widmore Managed to commandeer a boat and escape from Locke Get locked up with Widmore Get their camp blown up Plan another assault on Widmore Escape from Widmore Go to the plane Find dynamite on the plane Plan a 3rd assault (on Widmore's sub) Sink the sub Get back to the beach The losties arrived at Locke's camp at night, went for the boat during the day, got attacked at night, and arrived at the plane during the day - meaning at least 2 full days occurred between them leaving Richard & co and present day. The only thing I can conclude is that Richard is really, really slow, especially given how he felt he needed to move ASAP.
I swear I must be on a group ignore list or something. So does anyone have thoughts on Flocke not being able to kill Desmond?
Generic "Island's not done with him" answer. Still thinking that Desmond was supposed to release all the energy pockets (a la the Swan failsafe) since he could survive the multiple EM blasts. Now? The remaining survivors probably have to split up and each take a well (and sacrifice themselves to do so). Still believe that they sink the Island, sacrifice the island itself, to permanently imprison Smokey and his water issues. Doing that sets off the alternate reality (not really alternate timeline) where the Island never exists since it's a space/time nexus. Awakening to the alternate memories allows everyone to live out the happy ending that they sacrificed to put an end to Smokey. I absolutely do not believe Smokey is free in the alternate "timeline." There hasn't been a sniff of him at all.
My one issue with the alt timeline is that they're all happy.........except Kate. She's going to jail.
Is Sawyer happy? He's still looking for the man he blames for his parents death. Which brings up another question, in the alt time line, is Anthony Cooper still the "Sawyer" that conned James' mom? Also, Sayid was arrested by Sawyer for the murder of Keamy and his men, so things aren't looking good for him right now either.
Sawyers parents died before the bomb went off in the 70s. I think an interesting question is if the bomb killed the monster.
