I believe the Rocks are very high on Miles, and the best chance to get Darius will be at the Hawks' draft slot. It makes a lot of sense. I have a pretty good feeling Martin, Swift, Fizer, and Mihm are going in that order. The vibes I'm getting from the Magic camp is that they want to fill more of an immediate need with the 5th pick and go for the "upside" with the 10th pick and a point guard with the 13th pick. I'm putting 2 to 1 odds that they will be selecting Pryzbilla with this pick. Atlanta is high on Mike Miller, Dermarr Johnson, and Darius Miles in that order. They have pressing needs in the front court and at the 2 guard spot. I think they will be very willing to trade down to the 9th spot with a front court player thrown in(Kenny Thomas anyone?) The Bulls will nab Courtney Alexander with the 7th pick if Miles isn't there. The Cavs will nab the Greek center or Dermarr Johnson if Miles isn't there. Don't underestimate the Cavs. They will snatch up Miles if he's there. At the 9th slot, Atlanta can still get one of the two players they covet in Mike Miller or Dermarr Johnson, and they can add some additional front court help with Kenny Thomas. ------------------
No way both Chicago and Orlando have expressed interest in using the #4 and #5 picks respectively on Miles and the Clips are also high on Miles. Mihm is slipping so much the Bulls know he will be there at #7 and then will use #4 on Miles. ------------------ Mango is the Smeg of Bizarro World
You bring up really good points. Hawks are really high on Mike Miller and Dermarr. I think they like mike better because he has a little more experience. The GM of the hawks said he wants LEADERSHIP. This is what the Hawks GM said today. Do you have any reservations about taking youngsters such as Darius Miles and DerMarr Johnson? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Babcock at 3:11pm ET The first part of my answer would be that we feel very strongly about players finishing their commitments collegiately because it's better for their maturity on and off the court. Saying that, I won't tell you that we wouldn't draft a player coming out early because we have done that. But we encourage the players to finish their four years because selfishly it helps us because they're further along in their development. But if we do draft a young player then we just have to give them a chance to develop -- like a Rashard Lewis in Seattle or a Tracy McGrady in Toronto. Now lets talk about the bad news, Chicago LOVES MILES. The bulls have the draft in their hand. The 4th pick is really important, because if chicago drafts mihm then the magic will take Miles at the #5 because they like him alot too and he is too good to pass up. The bulls will most likely just take Miles at the 4 and go draft pryzbilla at the #7. Orlando also has shown aloot of interest in Jerome Moiso. Nbadraft.net has moiso at #5 which I dont think will happen. Moiso will get drafted by the magic with probably the #10 if he is there. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB [This message has been edited by Francis3 (edited June 23, 2000).]
If Chicago doesn't take Miles at #4, Orlando will probably take him at #5. They were blown away by his workout with them, unfortunately for us. ------------------ the more I know, the more I know I don't know...
It's all a farce. If Mihm is available at the #4 pick, Krause will take him there. I'm convinced that Jamal Magloire story was bs put out by Jerry Krause just to play into the biases of everyone. I never even questioned the story until I smelled him doing the same thing with Miles in a story a few days ago. If he has Mihm at #4, then his plan worked fine. If the Magic truly want Duncan, they'll take Pryz. at #5 as well. Duncan will want another banger on board. He's too meek to be the only big man. Da Man is right, Miles will be available at the #6. And I totally agree, their desired pick will be at the #9 as well, so the Rockets should swap their #9 and a freebie to slide into that spot (how does Walt and #9 sound for a drafted Miles?) ------------------ get it Tag, get it! - a Jazzhole asking Greg Ostertag to rebound the ball.
Joel Pryzbilla's only immediate impact will be on defense. His offense is sad, and that's being nice. Krause seems to be drooling over Miles. I personally think the best chance to get Miles (or anyone else) would be at #1. If we trade Thomas in that deal, who's our PF? ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better.
Like I said before, I'm very confident that the Bulls will take Mihm with the #9. Just to help out my case, here's an article from the Orlando Sentinel about Miles. http://orlandosentinel.com/automagic/sports/2000-06-22/SPTmiles22062200.html Here's an excerpt. "The Magic are unlikely to take Miles at No. 5, which could be their only chance to snag him, because their more pressing need is a bigger, stronger post player. The top five choices, in no particular order, figure to be Cincinnati`s Kenyon Martin, Texas` Chris Mihm, Louisiana State`s Stromile Swift, Iowa State`s Marcus Fizer and Minnesota`s Joel Przybilla." The Magic missed the playoffs by one game this year. They want an impact player with their first pick to go along with their decent nucleus to entice a 1st tier free agent. You aren't going to attact anybody with drafting a high school kid with your top 5 selection. I found another article somewhere stating how the Magic would love to use the number 10 pick on Miles, but not the 5 pick. The Bulls are going after Mihm with the 4 period. Jerry Krause didn't scout the all of those Texas games for Orlando to snag Mihm. He wants Mihm at the 4. ------------------
Why would the Hawks want another 4? Right now they've got Mutombo, Alan Henderson, and Lorenzen Wright. They've also got a guy on their bench that they drafted last year I think named Cal Bowdler. Why would they want KT or any other 4? ------------------ Too-Rye-Aye!
Also to add to what DaMan is saying, you always select the big man before guards. That's one reason why Bulls would draft Mimh at 4 instead of waiting to get him at 7. On a side note, the 3rd pick would be easier to trade up to than the 6th, but why trade for a higher pick(bigger price) when you can get the player you want at 6th? ------------------ Check out the new and improved Draftsource.net
The Bulls will take Miles with the #4. They know Miles will leave off the board by the time the get to the #7 pick. Also Chris Mihm could be taken by the Magic. I heard that magic did have some interest in him. All I know is that even if we trade with Atlanta, we wont get miles unless a miracle happens. His stock has shot in the air, magic will grab him up if the bulls dont take him. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
I also think the Bulls will take Miles at 4. Orlando might take a center with 5, but Atlanta will not. So, at worst, the Bulls can pick up Przybilla at 7 -- though Orlando may well take him and leave Mihm. And there is still Tsakalidis on the board if the other two are picked. Those three centers all fulfill the same need somewhat. Someone enticed to take Miles won't be able to look at another player and say, 'well, if Miles goes, this guy will still give me much the same thing.' That said, I think you're right that the 6th pick is our best shot, since no one else will trade their pick to us. But this best shot is a long shot. ------------------ http://www.gaffordstudios.cjb.net/
Krause is stoked that Mihm's availability has moved with his pick. the Clippers are the wild card. If and only if the top 3 picks take: Nets - Martin Grizzlies - Swift Clippers - Fizer and Mihm is available at the #4, then shouldn't the next 3 go: Bulls - Mihm Magic - Pryzabilla Hawks - Alexander, Miller, Johnson or Miles. The Hawks were horrible last year, so it seems as if they would want an impact player for this year. This would be the only threat for a #9 and #6 swap. If the Hawks covet Alexander here, forget about him being available at the #9 b/c it seems the Bulls would pick him up at #7 if Miles were gone at #6. Miller at #9 and some other player have to be enticing enough for them to forfeit Alexander. Not Bryce Drew and no not D. Gray or Carlos Rogers. Moochie Norris might do it (noooo!!!) but it seems like the Hawks would be drawn to Cuttino (perhaps allowing the Rockets to keep their #9). Bigger question, do you let Shandon go home to the Hawks for the #6, if he were interested? [This message has been edited by Achebe (edited June 23, 2000).]
No one contests that Miles is the man. I live close to East St. Louis and used to see him on Hearland News all the time. Ther are two big Q's: (1) will he be around when the Rocks pick, and (2) would we be willing to trade for him? (1) My guess is no. If Chicago doesn't get him , Orlando will. (2) We've done a lot of trading in the past few years. We need to stop and let our team grow. I would be surprised if we did trade for him because we might hurt the growing chemisty. ------------------ G
The whole order, in my understanding will be heavily affected by the Portland trade of Oneal as well as other trades not yet revealed. Jermaine Oneal, Tracy McGrady and Tim Thomas have been working to try to get together on the same team. The two teams in the running are also the teams with the most lottery picks, Orlando and Chicago. Here's the factors: 1) If Orlando was confident they were going to get Duncan, TMac has said that's where he wants to go. Even if they don't, there's a good chance that's where he wants to go, but Duncan would certainly ice it, although who knows how they'd pull off that many signings, so they'd probably have to do a sign and trade with Toronto. Orlando would then want to take Prysbilla with the #5, so they could trade him to Portland for Oneal. They would then either sign Thomas as a FA, or do a sign and trade with Milwaukee. They would probably take Alexander or Moiso with the #10, and Barkley or Crawford with the #13, if they aren't using them as part of a trade or sign and trade. Orlando is also talking to Portland about getting Grant, if they don't think they'll get Duncan. They might trade the #10 pick for Grant, so Portland could grab Crawford, who they also want. Orlando loves Miles, but they already have Maggette, and probably TMac, so he doesn't make sense there. That would give them Oneal/Thomas and Grant or Moiso/Maggette/TMac/Barkley or Crawford. Quite a team. But if they aren't going to get TMac, they would take Miles at #5. Mihm did not impress Orlando. (That could be disinformation, though) 2) If noone knows regarding Duncan, and noone is supposed to know until after August 1st, (as we were all reminded of recently) then Chicago may try to take Prysbilla with their #4, in order to make the trade with Portland, thereby increasing their chances of landing TMac and Thomas. Thomas and Oneal have mentioned they'd like to end up in Chicago. If so, they wouldn't need Miles, since they have TMac and Artest, and would hope that Mihm would fall to them at #7, although that is highly improbable. That could give them Oneal/Brand and Thomas/Tmac and Artest/Alexander/Claxton. Impressive. Chicago might just wait until next year to get their other center. 3) LAC just might get involved in this whole thing, so they could move Kandi. They might trade their pick to someone else on the board who wants Miles for a major center, or do the Portland trade themselves, so they could trade Kandi, and use Oneal themselves. This probably won't happen, because Oneal might go crazy, not wanting to play for LAC. But LAC has the cap space. Imagine if they decided to turn around the franchise, snagged TMac, Oneal and Thomas, then traded their #18, #30 and Kandi to Houston for Drew and our #9, took Alexander or Crawford. They'd have Oneal/T.Thomas/Odom/TMac/Crawford and Drew, which would be quite a starting team. LAC could take Miles at #3, then trade him somewhere for an established player. If Chicago doesn't think they'll get TMac, they'll probably take Miles at #4. If Orlando thinks they won't get TMac, they'll take Miles at #5. Someone will take Miles before #6. In my opinion, if we want Miles, we have to trade up to #3. ------------------ the more I know, the more I know I don't know...
