Bring back corporal punishment in schools, yes or no?

Man, I graduated HS in 2002 and it seems like there was still corporal punishment at my school. Parents could always opt out, though.

 

Depends on what the alternative punishment is. I was given a choice once between a swat and detention. I took the swat and went on my merry way.

I don't think it's a deterrent for most kids and the possibility is there that the school takes it too far.

 

Corporal punishment is never something we really want to do; but I think it is kind of a necessary evil. Sure we wish we were all smart enough to get our kids to behave without smacking them around, and we all wish our kids were mature enough to behave without getting smacked around... but the truth is sometimes that is the last and only option we run up against. I'm fine with it in schools. A parental opt-in might not be a bad idea, either. But it would be wise to not tell the kids their parents ever opted them out, heh.

 

I think parenting classes would do more good. If your child gets in trouble too many times the parents need to attend parenting classes.

Too many parents let the kids call the shots around the house, and where homework is concenred

 

No.

I don't like the effects studies show that it has on children. So I think that while mild corporal punishment should be allowed in the home, it should be discouraged. I certainly don't think it should be allowed in schools. Let's find ways to move beyond this type of discipline.

 

I just saw an article recently of a study that shows kids that were subjected to corporal punishment were more likely to become overly aggressive as adults. I’ll see if I can find it.

 

that wasn't hard

New Research Shows That Spanking Makes Kids Aggressive

 

I saw one recently, too. I think it was this:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=to-spank-or-not-to-spank
[rquoter]Corporal punishment has long been a hotly debated subject, with conflicting study results and opposing ideologies feeding the fire. Now the results of a five-year effort to review the scientific literature are in: a task force appointed by the family services division of the American Psychological Association (APA) concludes that “parents and caregivers should reduce and potentially eliminate their use of any physical punishment as a disciplinary measure.”

... In a presentation, she explained that the group of 15 experts in child development and psychology found correlations between physical punishment and an increase in childhood anxiety and depression, an increase in behavioral problems, including aggression, and impaired cognitive development—even when the child’s prepunishment behavior and development were taken into consideration.

...[/rquoter]

 

if they start, i'm sure Kam will be applying for a Principal's position at an all girls school

 

Or maybe those kids that were aggressive as kids got in trouble and got corporal punishment. Those aggressive kids were overly aggressive as adults.

So maybe it had no affect or maybe it limited their aggressiveness to lower levels, but to surmise that it only made them more aggressive is the old 'causation versus correllation' argument.

 

Certainly that's possible, but as the article I posted mentions they do take into consideration pre-punishment behavior and stuff like that. You'd probably want to read the study itself to get a complete idea of how they interpreted their data. But short of doing that I still think this indicates a greater likelihood of truth in their announced results.

 

What are some of the lessons corporal punishment taught you?

 

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Bring back the paddle!

 

It's not a great life lesson or some moral revelation or anything, but in terms of pure black and white, it does teach you that actions have consequences. Like I said, it's not a very desirable way to discipline kids or teach them a lesson, but it does get the most basic of points across.

 

I never thought it worked very well, it usually just made kids more angry and hate the person administering the punishment. When I was little, there were other ways to keep kids in line that pretty much had us all scared to the point where we never did anything

 

Corporal punishment just sounds like an excuse for aggression, impatience and emotional transferrence. I kind of think the counseling and therapeutic function at school should be alot bigger and more specialized. Maybe even have some kind of conflict arbitration, more extracurriculars, yada yada yada.

 

I wouldn't allow it for my kid, so I guess I could always opt out. You'd think parents would be the ones to dish out that punishment and not dole that out to school admins. It just seems a bit weird for me to have some school official paddling my child with me not present.

If other parents are okay with this type of scenario, I guess that's their right. I could understand school officials that didn't want any part of it refusing to carry out that type of punishment too. I don't think they should be penalized for refusing to commit assault on a juvenile.

 

If someone laid a hand on my kid, I would beat the living **** out of them.