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Calvin Murphy thoughts on Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BackNthDay, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. MrButtocks

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    I think AB deserved those shot attempts. He and Martin were step for step in terms of scoring. I'd like AB to utilize his mid-range game more and take fewer threes. He can definitely hit from downtown, but shouldn't settle.

    Bosh is a big upgrade over Scola IMO. It's not about the numbers: Kaman puts up similar numbers to Yao, but we all know he's no Yao. It's one thing to be good and productive like Scola and another to be dominant like Bosh.

    Would anyone turn Pau Gasol down? Scola puts up similar numbers to him too. Pau didn't have any success in Memphis either, but flourished once he had better teammates to take the pressure of being the #1 option off of him. Bosh can play that same role here. We have the supporting cast and coaching to do it.
     
  2. SuperBeeKay

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    Great idea Calvin, let's give the ball for Ariza to shoot.
     
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  4. Precision340

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    Didn't Calvin play with Moses Malone for a couple of years? He would have gotten a lot of open looks.
     
  5. danoman

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    We need camby to back up Yao he's a good defender aswell
     
  6. Deckard

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    Calvin was a better shooter (the 3 point shot wasn't adapted by the NBA until late in Calvin's career), had two seasons with over 7 assists per game and still has a higher career assist average than AB, was a much better defender, had more steals (with AB's quickness and long arms for his size, why doesn't he get more steals?) and was tough as nails. Seriously. The man was feared back in the day, because he could beat the crap out of guys much bigger than he was. Fighting was mother's milk in the NBA back then and suspensions for fighting were rare.
     
  7. Fyreball

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    Some of those names are pretty surprising. Namely, Carl Landry being the all-time FG% leader, and Ron Artest and Luther Head being 7th and 8th all-time in 3pt FG%. Also, Hakeem was a freaking BEAST. Not only does he dominate in the typical Center statistical categories, but he's 3rd all-time in ASSISTS! Simply amazing.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    No one played defense back then like they do now though....and thanks for the reference Wozel, thought Murphy might still be the all time assists leader.

    DD
     
  9. Deckard

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    I'm not going to get into an argument about defense then and defense now, the game being so different, but I stand by my statement that Calvin was a better defender. He was. Lots of players are better defenders than AB today. AB can't be the cat's pajamas doing everything, DD.
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Brooks will be the bait.
     
  11. Yetti

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    Calvin Murphy said.....

    1. His thoughts on Aaron Brooks: "Excellent scorer, however, shoots too much for PG, needs to orchestrate more of the offense with a 2 guard like Martin. Not sure if he has the skills to be a playmaker the Rockets need."

    DD please note that I am not the only one who thinks like this! :p
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    Bosh would probably play PF with Yao and our 14th pick( who i assume will be a back-up center ) being there.
     
  13. thumbs

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    He also had Mike "The Shark" Newlin and a guy named Rudy T on the wings.
     
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  14. Mr. Clutch

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    A guy named Bill Russell played ok D back in the day.
     
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    I was assuming we traded the 14th pick bc the raptors would want to replace some of their other weaknesses and want young cheap talent.
     
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    That's the problem. Adelmans system needs more distributing than scoring from the point. This is why Lowry has had more consistent success when he runs the point and Aaron runs the 2. Lowry is a true point, Brooks is not. I was really surprised that the Rockets did not switch the two because it was obvious. It has been 3 seasons and Aaron has not truly gotten his PG skills set yet. The point is supposed to lead the team in assists. The point should not take 13-15 shots a game. Only 6-8 open shots. Now which one of our two point guards did i just describe?
     
  17. Yao4REAL

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    I agreed that Bosh with his length and size help solidify the PF position as far as defensively matching up with someone like Gasol and Duncun. Also help in rebounding too........
     
  18. choujie

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    And he's right. The more shots Yao/Martin get, the more efficient Rockets offense will be. Those two are among top efficient scoerers in NBA. AB isn't, unless the shots he takes are 3s.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    No, he is wrong, because if one or two guys are shooting all your shots (Tmac and Yao cough cough) you are not going to win in the playoffs.

    A more balanced approach where you have multiple options works......

    AB would be getting less shots, but he will still be the number 1 option, or all 3 of the guys will be equal options if that makes sense.


    This is 100% WRONG !!!!!!!

    Go look up Terry Porter's stats, or Mike Bibby's when they played under Rick.....

    Sheesh !

    DD
     
  20. MiddleMan

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    Ariza is the 4th option, Yao/scola/martin will need their touches.
     

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