This thread should probably get moved but I could not help but think about Yao when reading it. Red Dragon Rising Wednesday, August 14, 2002 By Melana Zyla Vickers Washington cocktail-party conversations about China typically go something like this: A person from the China-as-a-peer-competitor school of thought says, "I think China, with its growing economy, growing military and young, nationalistic population, will only naturally lock horns with the U.S. in future decades." An advocate of the enmity-is-a-self-fulfilling-prophecy school responds, "Maybe, but casting the Chinese in an adversarial role now will serve to drive them away from the U.S. and from a friendship that I think they're open to." As the impasse is marked with polite sipping of the Cabernet Sauvignon, each guest searches for rescue by a more like-minded conversationalist. Turning the tables on such an exchange is the new report of Congress' U.S.-China Security Review Commission. Never mind what you chatterers think, the bipartisan report seems to interject, because the die is cast: "China's leaders consistently characterize the United States as a 'hegemon,' connoting a powerful protagonist and overbearing bully that is China's major competitor, but they also believe that the United States is a declining power with important military vulnerabilities that can be exploited. China views itself as an emerging power." Specifically, China's military leaders are focusing on several investments and advances that cannot be mistaken for anything but preparations for conflict against the U.S. This focus is far from meaning that conflict is inevitable. It doesn't even rule out cooperation and close U.S.-China ties in a variety of areas. But it should stop in its tracks any wishful thinking that China doesn't already see the U.S. as a potential military adversary. It should also make apparent that China's leaders, for their part, aren't worried that their planning will alienate the United States. Among China's U.S.-oriented military ambitions, it seeks to advance its: Ability to sink a U.S. carrier: China has publicly stated that it intends to be able to sink an American aircraft carrier. Among the technologies that could allow China to do this are anti-ship cruise missiles, which China could fire from land across long distances, and which it is now developing. China is also developing an over-the-horizon radar network with which to track surface ships. China has reportedly bought from Russia eight new Kilo-class diesel subs. China, which already has four of the subs, is to take delivery of the eight beginning in 2007. China's growing fleet of diesel subs is supplemented by a program to develop nuclear subs, the congressional report says. The nuclear sub development, called "Project 093," is to begin between 2003-05 and already has Russian cooperation. Whether this program will be successful is far from clear, however. In addition, China is acquiring the high-speed Russian anti-ship SS-22 Sunburn missile, and advanced wake-homing torpedoes. Some of these advances could be used in anti-submarine warfare against the U.S. Focus on asymmetrical warfare: China's President Jiang Zemin in 1999 called for the People's Liberation Army to develop weapons with which a technologically inferior Chinese military might defeat a technologically superior U.S. one. More specifically, China seeks to develop "assassin's mace" weapons -- what Americans might call a "magic bullet" -- with which to attack U.S. vulnerabilities. This focus on "asymmetrical warfare" draws on two millennia of Chinese strategic tradition. The congressional report says China focuses on such weaknesses as U.S. reliance on computer networks and dependency on satellites for military reconnaissance, navigation and communications. The Chinese also plan to target business communications, and specific systems such as the New York Stock Exchange computers or the communications and computers of airbases and carriers. Another example of an asymmetrical capability, though not one discussed in the report, is China's existing ability to launch a massive missile barrage against Taiwan or a traditional U.S. basing site such as Okinawa, Japan. The threat of such a barrage could pressure Japan to deny the U.S. access to Okinawa, thereby exploiting U.S. over-dependency on foreign bases in the event of a Taiwan conflict. Focus on space: China has seven military satellites and is building more. It has a modest, two-satellite version of the U.S. Global Positioning System of satellites, and has plans to expand it. Other research on China published by the Pentagon has pointed out that the PLA is developing ground-based anti-satellite technology. While these advances don't spell out a future in which China will be a U.S. "peer," China is definitely a "competitor." It would be convenient and reassuring to dismiss China's military advances and the recently announced expansion of its military spending by 17.6 percent as measures directed at the perennial tensions with Taiwan. But the advances outlined here are focused on countering U.S. capabilities, not Taiwanese ones. To be sure, Chinese military planners may be calculating that the U.S. would get involved in a cross-strait military conflict. But there's more to China's range of investments than planning for a brush with the U.S. in the Taiwan Strait. Rather, China's military planners seem to think the possibility of a large-scale, future military conflict between them and the dominant Pacific power is real, and should be prepared for. That's not necessarily a bellicose conclusion, it's just realistic. And since it's Beijing's conclusion, there's no reason Washington should draw a different one. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,60325,00.html I hate to think that we are viewed as a "hegemon" to China. I never new that we were viewed as this much of an enemy to them and what any future conflicts would have on Ming playing in the US. However, Yao Ming playing for the Rockets should be the least of our concerns if these two super powers ever run into a major conflict.
You couldn't help think of Yao when you read that story. I couldn't help thinking of how many misguided souls get all their info from the right wing media when I read the thread. By the way ,when the US is spending a great deal of time trying to insure that we always remain militarily dominant by trying to build offensive as well as defensive based weapons, what do you expect other countries to do. One of the beauties of the arms industry for those who profit from it is that you can create your own demand by threatening other countries so that they will spend more. You can then use that spending as an excuse to spend ever more in a profitable (for some) spiral. Thanks for deliberately posting in the wrong forum.
What a stunner that Fox "News" would run that story....right after the "Jesse Jackson Illegitimate Child(ren?) Hour" and "Economy Stagnating: All Clinton's Fault." Abracadabra, thread...move! Move, thread! Move?
The conquest of America begins with the NBA as the Chinese send over agent Yao (carefully crafted using stolen Russian technology).
hey what did i miss!? did someone mention taiwan!? AND YAO? (RealShady, if you find this worrisome, imagine if you're a poor Taiwanese bloke. That Red Dragon's been built to destroy one thing and one thing above all... YOU! The US is merely a passerby who's likely to get rudely bumped by the dragon as it piledrives the poor people of taiwan...) but yes, this should go to the hangout.
Sorry guys. I know that foxnews is about as right wing as you can get as far as media coverage goes. My mind just started running rampant about possible senarios playing out and how that could affect the US perception of Ming. Sorry again.
(picks self up from floor after rolling around and laughing my left buttock off) Right wing media??? (pause for more rolling and laughing) Sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone or belittle their personal beliefs, but if you truly believe there is such a thing as a 'right wing media' in anything other than niches, just pick up a copy of Bias. But anyway, umm.. sports sports sports... Yao is really tall!! Who will be the first guy HE dunks on?? ps ok I just have to say this too: In just the same way that the Government of the United States is NOT a synonym for the country of the United States, neither is the communist government of China synonymous with the nation of China. The NATION of China and the NATION of the U.S. are not enemies. In fact they are on the verge of being quite friendly with each other. But governments often have their own agendas, ours is no exception, and if your government is doing something you don't like, then take an interest, make your voice heard, and vote. Ciao
USA is selling weapon to Taiwan saying weapon will protect them............ This is a lie if you think about it for 1 minute. But don't try to blame USA for intending to stir a war between Chinese. USA is just doing weapon business for money, not for blood. I too agree that China has to develop defense. Too many strange,skillful, fruitful, high technology happy wars happened in the last 12 years. USA is scary to everybody. But God is still there.