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A real Maverick, indeed. Now Seattle making calls!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DearRock, Aug 13, 2002.

  1. DearRock

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    Cuban is not joking and he is certainly shaking things up. That the kind of thing endless money allows. It seems Seattle did call about a sign and trade. Rockets should be next. I wonder if Cuban will get into the verbal stuff with the rockets too. At least we have won two championship and all his players are afraid of the rockets.

    http://www.tribnet.com/sports/basketball/sonics/story/1588627p-1705149c.html

    No sign-and-trade deal with Mavs

    Frank Hughes; The News Tribune

    Seattle SuperSonics general manager Rick Sund called the Dallas Mavericks on Monday to discuss a sign-and-trade proposal for free-agent Rashard Lewis, but was unsuccessful in what was certainly predetermined futility.

    Sund would not discuss specifics of the conversation, but sources said he was rebuffed when he told Mavericks assistant coach Donnie Nelson that he wanted a combination of two of the Mavericks' top three players - Dirk Nowitzki, Michael Finley and Steve Nash - in exchange for Lewis.


    Mavericks owner Mark Cuban had said repeatedly that he was willing to work out a sign-and-trade for Lewis, but Cuban was adamant that none of his core players would be included in any discussions.


    And so it is becoming increasingly clear that Lewis is going to have to make a decision between the Sonics' seven-year, $60 million offer with incentives that can bring the total to $75 million; or a three-year deal for $15 million with the hope - and risk - of a larger contract in 2005.


    Any sign-and-trade deal deal would be difficult because the Sonics and Mavericks either would have to get a third team involved or would have to include so many players that it would make it virtually impossible.


    Lewis tried another ploy to get the Sonics to budge Monday when he met with officials from the Houston Rockets in Lewis' hometown of Houston.


    However, the meeting, which took place at the Westside Tennis Center, where many NBA players go for summer workouts, was described as superficial introductions of Lewis and Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson.


    "I wouldn't even call it a meeting," said Carl Poston, Lewis' Houston-based agent. "All it was was, 'We have to get together. We'll be here (in Houston). We should meet with Rashard.' "


    Poston also said that "things hadn't changed" with Seattle, meaning the Sonics remained firm on their financial offer.


    "We're still at the same point," Poston said.


    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/82406_sonx13.shtml

    Rhetoric on Lewis heats up

    Tuesday, August 13, 2002

    By DANNY O'NEIL
    SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

    In Houston, Rashard Lewis visited with the Rockets, his hometown NBA team.

    In Dallas, Mavericks owner Mark Cuban lobbed a verbal volley in response to statements from Sonics owner Howard Schultz.

    It was a Texas two-step that traveled to Seattle, where it felt more like a combination punch.

    A Rockets spokesman confirmed that Houston general manager Carroll Dawson met with Carl Poston, Lewis' agent. It's believed Lewis was at the meeting. The Rockets -- like the Mavericks -- can only sign Lewis for a starting salary of $4.5 million, barring a sign-and-trade deal, but the Sonics have not heard an offer.

    While the salary cap keeps the Mavericks from outbidding the Sonics, it says nothing about bickering, and Cuban sent an e-mail yesterday after learning of Schultz's comments in Monday's Post-Intelligencer.

    "They have chosen to build their organization through minimizing costs at the expense of what they can pay players," Cuban wrote of the Sonics. "The Mavs have chosen to maximize revenues so that we have a better opportunity to reward our players.

    "Each team has to make their own choices, and it will be entertaining and interesting to see how Howard goes through the same process with Gary (Payton) and Bones (Brent Barry), then Desmond (Mason), then Vlade (Radmanovic).

    "Calling other teams the bad guys might work once."

    Cuban's statements served the dual purpose of presenting Dallas as a financial Shangri-La while shading the Sonics as a team with a bare-bones budget.

    The truth is not nearly that easy because Dallas' contracts come with the possibility of being traded by an owner who's as freewheeling as he is free-spending. Also, the Sonics have indicated they are willing to pay the luxury tax for one season to re-sign Lewis at a time when most teams are running scared from the mere threat of the taxman.

    While the Sonics' payroll won't measure up to the money Cuban has thrown around, that doesn't mean Seattle isn't interested in maximizing revenue.

    Cuban's response gave the tug-of-war over Lewis a tennis-match flavor until Schultz failed to return serve yesterday, declining to comment when told what Cuban had written.

    On Sunday, Schultz said, "I'm not going to play the game that Cuban plays and create false expectations. What I've tried to communicate to Rashard is a sense of loyalty and ethical standard he can rely on with me."

    He also said Lewis would have a hard time becoming an All-Star in Dallas with Steve Nash, Michael Finley and Dirk Nowitzki as the first-tier options, with Nick Van Exel and Raef Lafrentz also playing prominent parts.

    The roster is packed, but Cuban points out that produces more exposure, citing that 22 of the Mavericks' 82 games will be televised nationally next season.

    "If Rashard does come to the Mavs, then Howard can watch him on TV 22 times," Cuban wrote, "along with everyone else who votes for the all star teams (sic)."

    The Sonics have offered Lewis a seven-year contract worth $60 million guaranteed, with an additional $15 million in incentives. Dallas can counter with $15 million for the next three years, and then Lewis would be eligible for a bigger contract.

    On Sunday, Schultz said he had talked to Lewis about what happened to Christian Laettner and Tim Hardaway in Dallas, two touted acquisitions the Mavericks traded away in their first season with the team.

    Cuban mentioned three other players yesterday: Finley, Nowitzki and Lafrentz who all signed long-term deals to come back to the Mavericks without ever visiting another team.

    "We have kept the same nucleus of players to build upon," Cuban said. "And as each of those players has come up on free agency, we have shown our commitment to each of those players."

    Cuban didn't talk about Greg Buckner, a free-agent guard who played three years in Dallas but wasn't offered a contract this off-season and left for Philadelphia. Or Gary Trent, who left the team in 2001 after a similar situation.

    Cuban has made multi-player deals at the trading deadline each of the past two seasons, and last year's deal angered Hardaway.

    "My goal is to improve any way, any time, no questions asked," Cuban told the Denver Post before the trade involving Hardaway. "The goal is not to win more games every season. The goal is the (championship) ring. Whatever I think helps me support that strategy, I'm on top ... even if it's not popular."

    Cuban's style certainly isn't making friends in the Sonics front office, and the statements put pressure on Seattle to increase its offer. Cuban's tactics might net him Lewis, who has indicated he will sign with the Mavericks unless the Sonics increase their offer. Cuban said the Mavericks won't set any deadlines and will work on Lewis' timetable.
     
  2. verse

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    the weed in the great northwest must really be some primo, grade A sticky icky icky...i wonder if they can export some of that to texas...
     
  3. RIET

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    The Sonics know the only competition for Lewis is Dallas so its no surprise they would make an offer no one would accept.

    If I were the Sonics, I'd do the same thing. Whatever Lewis signs for, he should give Cuban a 5% agent's fee for driving up his contract.
     
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    This is getting ugly. Neither Cuban nor Schultz should be viewed as trustworthy in Lewis' eyes. After Lewis becomes option #4 or 5 and avg. 10-11ppg. Cuban WILL NOT pay him, period. And that All-Satr crack, c'mon! No one of the big 3 in Dallas will be voted to start an all-star game EVER so their is no way the lower options will get selected.

    The Sonics aren't much better though. They told him to stay and they would pay him later and next thing Lewis knows he's getting offered lowball contracts b/c the Sonics know no one else can pay him. I mean, pennies more than Jerome James? Please:rolleyes:. If Rashard knows whats good for him, he'll just come on home and leave all the Sonic and Mav BS behind him.
     
  5. Greg M

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    Well Cuban just screwed up any chance he had in a S&T. The window of opportunity just got a little bigger for the soft spoken and shrewd Carrol Dawson to make a deal. This is quite the soap opera. At the very least, it's entertaining many people through the slow part of the offseason.
     
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    I think that Nowitsky will start an All-star game in his career.
     
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  7. Gypsy

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    2 of Nash, Finley, and Nowitski?!???!?

    That has to be political bs. Pi$$ing off Cuban while telling Rashard he's a 'top tier' player--of course, without offering Rashard the max a top tier player deserves.

    I wonder what Seattle would want of the Rockets if this is how they value Lewis. I can' t believe it, though. They'll probably try to get Houston to give up Mobes + KT or MoT and whatever else would need to happen. Obviously, too much.
     
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    Good point, Greg. This is exactly what I thought. Cuban has probably talked his way right out of the possibility of getting Rashard. Lewis was using Dallas as an attempt to drive up the price of his contract with Seattle. If he were going to sign for the MCE, I think that he would do it with Houston. That's where he really wants to be.
    If Seattle is pushed to the edge though, I think that they would work with Houston before they would Seattle at this point. I just wish that if Houston were to get Lewis in a S&T, they could get him for Seattle's current offer.
     
  9. verse

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    seattle just poked themselves in the ... with that move. i mean, isn't that suggesting that rashard in on tier with players like finley, nowitski, and nash. in fact, he's worth two of those guys according to the sonics. so....tell me again how you only offered him jerome james type money? :confused: :rolleyes:

    if it was a ploy to piss the mavs off, it still doesn't make sense. ok, make an offer you know they won't accept and run the risk of cuban really pulling out the red carpet for rashard...maybe even promising a *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* deal.

    as far as i'm concerned, rashard is not going back to seattle. seattle just drove shards price higher than they are willing to pay. so now it comes down to happiness and i don't think shard will be happy in the great NW.


    welcome home, rashard.
     
  10. Joe Fan

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    It's funny that Seattle say Lewis is not worth the big money he wants but they nonetheless insist he is worth both Nowitsky and Finley.
     
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    Maybe the leaked "offer" was "misreported."

    Maybe the deal was Lewis + Payton = Nash and Nowitzki?

    You wouldn't throw Payton's name out there when you're supposedly trying to bring your team back together.

    I still wouldn't do the deal, but it's closer to realistic; the BYC comes into play with Rashard. And maybe even with Nowitzki.

    Ah, who knows. They're probably just trying to scare up the price.
     
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  12. NIKEstrad

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    The Rockets are in a pretty good situation regarding Lewis, IMO.

    Seattle just indirectly said Lewis is worth 2 all-stars...yet they won't pay Lewis the amount of 1 all-star. Result: Seattle has further gotten on Lewis' badside.

    Dallas is now in owner wars with Seattle (Cuban vs. Schultz). Result: These owners have a lot of pride. My guess (and hope) is that while Schultz doesn't want to pay Rashard the type of money he wants, he doesn't want to see him go to Cuban either. What's the only other mentioned option? None other than the Rockets.

    It doesn't hurt his agent is based in Houston, and Rashard grew up just outside of Houston.
     

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