Things like women cannot show their face in public, women cannot drive, women cannot vote, you can be executed for believing in other religions other than Islam, homosextuals can be killed, etc.
Good point. I don't know what your point is, but it has vomit in it, so you got me there. Tell that to Margaret Sanger. But the data in this country is not actually stating that, and there is actually very little data from any objective source about the relationship between contraceptive use, teenagers, and abortion. This is the closest study I could find when I researched this topic 2 years ago for a similar thread: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3876/is_200303/ai_n9228690/ There's no such study for teenagers, mostly because you can't get a lot of medical data from after abortions. It's not an unreasonable position to think that kids becoming more sexually active, forgetting to take the pill correctly or a condom breaks is going to lead to a pregnancy. Actually, it's not anything like that.
Under the Smith standard, a neutral and generally applicable law does not require that a government give exemptions for religious reasons. Thus the case: Hot & Sexy Productions (be careful googling that) http://openjurist.org/68/f3d/525 Let's not kid ourselves that parents, conservatives, and crazy people don't have something at stake about the way they raise their children and how sex education is involved in all of that.
Yeah that stuff all sucks. But I'm no expert in comparative law nor a democratic revolutionary in one of those theocratic regimes, so there ain't too much I can do about that. I'm just trying to make it through law school.
uh, my point is, people are arguing points that are counterproductive to their goals. well, everyone has an opinion that colors a study, i guess. but it seems to me a logical progression to assume that, if chances are conception are minimized, then unwanted pregnancies are minimized, and therefore abortion is minimized. trends in other countries indicate this. no? uh...hence, better education? do you support aid organizations teaching condom use in war-torn, AIDS-ravaged places where rape is prevalent, like africa? just curious. i'll take your word for it. i guess i underestimated how horny teenage boys are.
If you are too lazy to read the case I'll just gist it for you, religious parents objected to their kids in public school having to attend sex ed classes put on by Hot & Sexy Productions, in which sex education was taught in a very lewd manner. Parents objected on religious grounds, and they were denied the ability to take their kids out of the program. So what's at stake is the loss of the ability to not have your kids exposed to teachings that go against the heart of one's faith.
People need to stop pushing their damn religion on our public school system. We need more education and less of this:
lulz, do you really believe "hot and sexy productions" is the norm for contraceptive ed rather than the exception? the ruling was idiotic, but come on. most comprehensive sexual education is presented in a very appropriate manner.
Not if their goals are to not have kids being sexually active. The study shows that in some countries there is a correspondence between contraception and abortion, but this is only heavily industrialized nations where this is the case (except for the US for some reason). Everywhere else abortions seem to go up with the rise in contraceptives. Like I said, there's no real data for teenagers, but if you are in school maybe that could be a research project for you. That's just as idealistic as telling them not to have sex until marriage and/or they are older. You can't neglect the human dimension that is just going to forget/ mess up. No, I'm Catholic and stand with the Pope on those issues. I believe we live in an oversexualized world that devalues sex and objectifies both men and women. But then again I'm crazy so, you know. That's because you are married to a p*rn freak.
Let's say a Catholic is opposed to his child being taught contraception is the norm and how to use condoms. He'd have no opt out if the local school board decided not to grant one.
It's not about teaching about or against religion. It's about teaching kids that having sex has consequences. We can't force them to not have sex. However, we can at least give them a decent base of knowledge for doing it safely to avoid the spread of STDs and prevent unwanted pregnancy. Now if parents don't want their kids to be taught sex ed in schools, they can write a note for their child to be excused. However, if you aren't a parent and you claim a moral high-ground against education that benefits our society (with statistics to back it up) then you win the douchebag of the day award.
Quite apart from where you stand on this issue, it seems bizarre that a local DA could try to trump a Governor by essentially threatening individual teachers with legal consequences for following a state approved statute. Especially when his legal argument is so far-fetched. Seems there should be some sort of 'improper use of office' guideline he's breaching.
Also....since he's suggesting sex ed is 'contributing to the delinquency of a minor'. wouldn't that also apply if it was taught by the parents?
Is Sex Ed and Elective. . . like Home Ec? oops. . showing my age. . . like SHOP? The question is. . . . what does BENEFIT SOCIETY mean? It means one thing to you . . .another to other people? Finalsbound said: most comprehensive sexual education is presented in a very appropriate manner. The question is. . what is appropriate? For some. . . . putting condoms on a cucumbers is appropriate other. . putting condoms on a cucumbers WITH YOUR MOUTH is appropriate Rocket River
line of the day I would force the DA's hand. Are you really willing to arrest a teacher for doing there state mandated law approved job. As a parent I could elect NOT to have my child in the class at the time of these "instuctions". BUT the DA had to make a political statement out of it. I have a question or 2. Since buying and drinking booze is illegal under the age of 21, would teaching a 16 year old the history of wiskeys and wines be illegal also? What about giving a drivers ed book to a 14 year old?
