1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Chuck Hayes is obscenely unappreciated

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 2, 2010.

  1. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,950
    Likes Received:
    33,697
    This is so Chuck Hayes.

    We know he's not a big minute center or power forward even -- he was never supposed to be nor was he ever paid to be. Injuries created that situation. But his post defense and smarts make for one very valuable situational role player, and he rarely gets the credit he deserves because his rock-like defense doesn't put many steals or blocks next to his name.

    Nothing in this play will show in a box score, yet it is invaluable. Houston's center is assigned to guard one of the best perimeter scorers of the decade in the final seconds of a tie game. Poor footwork, a sloppy foul or a risky lunge would have given the Celtics the win. His defense on Pierce forced overtime.

    Brooks, Budinger, Scola... they will get headlines because of their big shots and big numbers, but it's plays like these that have defined the Rockets and their defense the past several years. Maybe that has changed moving forward, but if he's not back next year, I'm going to miss him.

    <object width="640" height="505"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbRZZLD48B4&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbRZZLD48B4&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="505"></embed></object>
     
    4 people like this.
  2. LosPollosHermanos

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    29,954
    Likes Received:
    13,969
    I used to rag on him a lot but what chuck has managed to do this year at the starting C position is just amazing. Props to the guy, hope he stays a rocket for a long tiem.
     
  3. Rocket94-95

    Rocket94-95 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    902
    Likes Received:
    5
    he will be back next year the rockets respect chuck hayes and shane battier as spokesmen for rockets media they need them to teach defense to the youngters c-bud and j-hill
     
  4. Karolik

    Karolik Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,405
    Likes Received:
    151
    To be fair Hayes was getting burned by Perkins and missed some easy shots throughout the game..but so far his clutch defense is solid.
     
  5. elindio23

    elindio23 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    542
    Likes Received:
    22
  6. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    Agreed. I hope the team keeps him despite the tax situation. Even if he doesn't get regular rotation minutes, I would still want to have him available even if just to play one-possession D like he did there.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    29,954
    Likes Received:
    13,969
    he has an injured knee but he knows he can't sit. Dude is gutsy and goes all out for the team.
     
  8. Naija Texan

    Naija Texan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    55
    Not many players let alone centers can keep their cool in that situation.


    Props to the Chuckwagon!!!
     
  9. Codman

    Codman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,796
    Likes Received:
    11,954
    I'll admit that I'm often frustrated by his lack of offensive skills. I get heated when he misses those layups or when his shot is easily blocked.


    But, Clutch, you are right. He is underappreciated.

    That defense on Pierce and KG was awesome.
     
  10. rockets934life

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    15,312
    Likes Received:
    249
    Don't blame Chuck for his limitations but do think Hill should have been playing late in the game a bit more and should start from here on out. Saying that, Chuck guarding PP was brilliant to see.
     
  11. Jontro

    Jontro Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2010
    Messages:
    36,265
    Likes Received:
    25,341
    I remember years ago when he started getting minutes, thinking he was a useless scrub because he was the king of fouls with no offense. Now I'm glad he's on our side.

    I think out of the current roster, our PF's duo (Hayola) are the only two with a great prospect of being a decent-great head coach.
     
  12. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,892
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    I'm not optimistic he'll return. He's been my favorite player for over 3 years now, so its sad that he may have only a handful of games left as a Rocket. I hope he gets himself healthy for next season and makes a big impact wherever he lands.
     
  13. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,218
    Likes Received:
    14,657
    He has done a great job playing out of position. He is also much shorter than the 4's in the league. Lately,he has been struggling. Some of it is due to the opposing team adjusting to him,and the rest to injury.
    I hope we can get a true backup center and move Chuck to the 4 spot. He might get lost with the numbers and possibly the LT. That would be sad.
     
    #13 saleem, Apr 2, 2010
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2010
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,543
    Likes Received:
    38,771
    I don't think the team will excercise it's option, and will hope to sign him on the cheap.

    I hope it works out, as a defensive specialist, he is 2nd to none.

    BTW - if Chuck could make a layup, the Rockets would have not needed that defensive stand.

    ;)

    DD
     
  15. jlwee

    jlwee Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,880
    Likes Received:
    76
    Is it me or the video streaming, Paul Pierce looks so slow in the video. Is he injured or what?
     
  16. TEXNIFICENT

    TEXNIFICENT Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    8,070
    Likes Received:
    7,018
    :confused:The guy is a major handicap offensively and can't protect the rim defensively. Missed layups and the inability to finish plays with dunks or at the free throw line will KILL YOU against elite opponents. There are 6'5 players who CAN DUNK and Chuck isn't one of them. If the Rockets cut him the Lakers, Mavs, Cavs, Magic, or Portland wouldn't be beating his door down to sign him. Skilled bigs (as long as they don't run over him) kill him because they shoot & rebound (tip-ins) over him. Besides an occasional swipe at the ball or a charge he's as helpless as can be. MOVE ON! Let's go get some SIZE!!!!!
     
  17. declan32001

    declan32001 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2002
    Messages:
    2,455
    Likes Received:
    17
    Chuck has gotten worn down this season. He was so huge in the playoffs last year after Deke, then Yao went down and I hope GM's around the league remember that for his sake.
     
  18. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,303
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Did Adelman put him on Pierce or did he just end up on him? It looked to me like Budinger started out on PP but got picked or something. Hayes was kind of roaming, not guarding the inbounder.
     
  19. Hayesfan

    Hayesfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2006
    Messages:
    10,906
    Likes Received:
    371
    Me too.

    I, like Durvasa posted above me somewhere, am afraid that he won't be here next season because of money issues... but I hope he is!

    Poor guy has been playing hurt for weeks and at times you can see it more than others, but he still does what he can to help the team. That's why I love the guy so much.. he utilizes what talent he was given to it's extreme.

    Daryl, please find a way to keep my boy around!
     
  20. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,303
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Why would the Rockets not keep Hayes? Did I miss something?
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now