That's probably every time when he went to the finals he faced Phil Jackson, and he always out coached him. I guess it was just bad luck.
JVG's team did perfectly fine on offense before he had to replace Howard with Ryab Bowen and Sura blew up his knee. After that it's all injury after injury. Don't blame JVG for offense,JVG didn't have Martin,AB,Landry,Scola,Ariza etc to play offense for him. Nobyd can do well on offense when your #3 scorer is Rafer Alston and two top guys take turns to miss half season.
omg you can't be serious. JVG's offense was terrible, our bench never contributed and our plays were too easy to predict. Rafer dribbles to half court, passes to tmac. Tmac dribbles the clock out or passes to Yao who turns it over. There was a game vs the jazz where only 4 players scored... And don't blame it one the players, those were the type of players JVG wanted. There is a reason Rick can get all these young guns to contribute, JVG would have given them VSPAN treatment. And what is with the obsession over sura, fans act like he cp3 or something. He was garbage.
You are just full of optimism arent you. I know you are completely optimistic about having this team built around yao, but now I also see that you really feel good about going into a big game with Adelman as well. At least your consistent...
Coach R-Adelman lack in player choice, especially in last seconds, he always choose the wrong man to excute.
When did JVG ever either develop or bring in two-way players like Adelman? Adelman made Chris Webber... yes Chris FREAKING Webber into a great defender. He made great defensive teams out of players people never think about defense with: Webber, Divac, Brad Miller, Peja, Bibby, Bobby Jackson. Only Christie gets mention when it comes to defense on that team. Why is it that JVG, in his entire career, never had any offensive talent besides stars(Spree/Houston in NY, T-Mac/Yao in Houston)? Yet Adelman finds offensive talent everywhere he goes? You really think it's just luck?
Patrick Ewing, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston. The offensive rating went up despite losing Ewing, after JVG left.
JVG got fired for a reason - he failed. Rick Adelman has been GREAT so far. 2nd round last year...championship next. DD
JVG had offensive players. He played a very slow pace, so it made them look worse. Don't forget Hall of Famer, Patrick Ewing. He was good for dropping 20-25 pts a night. Allan Houston was a 20 pt scorer before and after playing for JVG. Under JVG, Allan Houston was good for about 18 pts. JVG also got Larry Johnson, a 20 pt scorer, from the Hornets, but managed only 12 pts in his 1st year with JVG. JVG also had Latrell Sprewell, a 20-25 pt scorer in his last 2 seasons with Golden State. He only managed 16-17pts after coming to play for JVG.
Latrell Sprewell had 20-25 pts in Golden state, before coming to NY. Allan Houston was a 20 pt scorer before and after playing for JVG. Patrick Ewing was a hall of fame center that could drop 20-25 pts on anybody. Larry Johnson was a 20 pt scorer in his last season before coming to the Knicks.
i don't have that type of confidence. a team that won't emphasize the defense will not be a championship contender. we saw a quite bit of offense power teams that lost in the first round, mavs for example. you count on yao's back to change everything. well, i am worrying about yao will be in foul trouble most nite if ab plays like what he is doing on defense end. you might say ab will improve his defense. my question is how if ra doesn't act like jvg. everyone said here jvg had right combination of players to play defense. give me a break. he yanked or screamed at anyone who didn't play defense. his demand on defense made his name. he planted his demand into his players' brain to play defense. if you don't play defense, you have no chance to be on court under his coaching. only those players who play defense get playing time so it looks like he had right combination.
You mean you would like to see Morey assemble a better defensive line up? Adelman can only play the players he has on the roster. Face it, we probably wont have a perfectly balanced team. ian just get stops when we need them, that is good. We have to be able to score points efficiently to be contenders.
It is easy to rant Yao is tough and dominant but what did he achieve? in fact, they made a loser out of the great Yao of China. The team were losing everything with healthy and prime Yao-TMAC. Yao did not win anything with JVG other than all star presences. Yao lost all his moves, handle and health playing JVG style basketball. Yao still could not handle front defense, could not seal his man,could not catch a rebound. what did he learn? With Yao in the lineup, 4th quarter collapses were too many to count.
I'm just a realist. I like adelman and the way he lets the players play, but there are things that happen and i really question what game he's watching. Go watch the 4th qt meltdown by the blazers in game 6 or losing 3 straight vs the pistons in 90. Go watch those kings teams when he had great depth and refused pull a struggling, coming off injury peja. I can also look at how long it took him to move tracy off the top of the key and into the mid post vs utah or having the rookie landry in vs deke to secure the rebound vs utah. I know why he did it, but the attention to details are always big factors in losing playoff games. To me, he's in the same boat in terms of coaching as george karl.
For real, RA didn't turn any JVG leftovers like Alston, Hayes, Head, Battier into better offensive players. Rockets just didn't have enough assets to get offensive players through JVG era. The damage was done by CD starting with the trade of Eddif Griffin for three 1st rounders. Then a series of bad contracts left Rockets no flexibility for many years. RA just had the good timing to have Scola, Landry and AB(that might be his pick) in his first year. And he basiclly played same JVG play except Scola, the result is similar to JVG's on offense. That means given the same players, the'll do the same.
JVG's teams have historically been highly ranked defensively, but an eyesore to watch on offense - absolutely no offensive flow. His overall philosophy is lacking what most great coaches posses: The ability to adapt to rule and personnel changes, and balance. A guy like Aaron Brooks would not have been drafted and developed with JVG at the helm. JVG would rather acquire and play a Charlie Ward or a Charles Oakley. While neither coach has won the big one, I give a lot of credit to RA to adapt to personnel and rule changes throughout his career. Look at how he adapted to his personnel with the Blazers,the Kings, and now the Rockets. When Yao was out for the season, we went to a much more uptempo game. When Yao went down under JVG, it was the samo samo grind it out crap. Playoffs or no playoffs, this has been one helluva season, and RA deserves a lot of credit for coaching up an entertaining, overachieving team which has played meaningful games up to late March.
Agree, but I will really love Adelman if he would start playing the current rookies bigger minutes the rest of season and sit Scola, Brooks and Ariza as much as possible. I still have flashback nightmares in missing out on Brandon Roy in the 2006 draft, all because JVG wanted to win every pointless game with his veterans at the end of that season. For me right now its all about the ping pong balls.
