<br> Sugar Hill Gang and RUN DMC both rapped about clothes/women/money. Guess they were sellouts too....
I never used the word sellout, don't even care about it. I was just talking about old rap period end of story. I could give two s***s about how artists make their money. If it's good I'll listen, if not I won't.
i said i cant wait til the end of the week when im rappin to the rhythm of a groovy beat and attempt to raise your body heat just blow your mind so that you cant speak and do a thing but a rock and shuffle your feet and let it change up to a dance called the freak and when ya finally do come in to your rhythmic beat rest a little while so ya dont get weak I am surprised some teeny booper didn't write/sing this.
And really Sugar Hill Gang were not really even a "rap" group. They were a manufactured group that got other people to write for them. Look it up. And you don't have Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.....I fart in your general direction.
read the whole post, it said not limited to. There are also quite a few rap artists that get people to write for them or at the very least create beats, so not sure what that has to do with anything. I was just commenting on when I thought rap was in it's purest form. Nice Python reference though
The kid is from CANADA!!!! It's smart of these rappers to take on a project like this, it appeals to a fan base they can't reach....
When Luda actually tries (i.e., not Battle of the Sexes or some of his singles) he's one of the most talented rappers out there. He's also smart enough to know what sells, so I can't fault him for some of his questionable collaborations. Hopefully he'll keep making a few quality tracks to go along with his pop stuff, but if not he's still making bank so good for him.
It's just proof that every end of the decade becomes this huge bubble gum pop sensation. 1989-1990 - NKOTB, Tommy Page, Taylor Dayne, Vanilla Ice... 1999-2000 - Nysnc, BSB, 98 degreees, britney spears, aguilera... 2009-2010 - Jonas Bros, Miley, Bieber, Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez, etc I wonder what 2019 will hold....
Kinda odd how old school pre-early 90's rap is left alone as the roots of pureness. Where some of its elements are noticeably "soft". Then everything after that, the standard was how hip hop HAD to be hardcore edgy, provocative and "real". To where it got to if there's no crime and thug element in it, its not even hip hop at all. Meaning it actually wasnt okay to be the next Kurtis Blow or LL Cool J anymore? You can listen to their past hits, but dont mimic them. Okay... It had to happen to legitimize hip hop as music. And you CANT take away someone's rough life experience. But its like who listening to rap is living the life where they have to report to some mafia boss in a crime syndicate on the daily. Most people just want to go party and screw and get in a liiittle trouble. Then the white people that buy 70% of rap ultimately figured out they had a say and put their money on the Lil Wayne generation. The music's watered down, sure. Still, f*** Rick Ross and Fat Joe selling their dope. Mobb Deep said plenty times they're not no "R&B" type. 5 years later, song with Mariah Carey. Fat Joe doing songs with Jennifer Lopez. Which means the artists you mentioned had it right the first time.
This isn't edgy or real? <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/O4o8TeqKhgY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/O4o8TeqKhgY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> Don't look to the radio or television to tell you what hip-hop is. 90% of the time, there wrong.
Well put. The subject matter in Luda's verse isn't much different from his usual stuff (albeit, this is more of a PG version). lol @ all the outrage about rappers wanting to make money through videos, promotions, etc etc. "I want my rappers real! they need to be in line for food stamps with the rest of the 'real' mofos!" like ceon said, falling in "love" at 13 is a lot more "real" to me (and most people I would think) as opposed to selling drugs, murder, robbery, etc.
Well I think people are kind of shocked at Luda for doing this track because he doesn't really rap about said things. He is one of the few rappers that has legitimately broke out without having a gangster persona and is excepted everywhere. I see him trying to appeal to younger kids with the song but damn......It's like Ice Cube or Eddie Murphy doing kids movies now. Just have you being like WTF? But still love them.
It's what you perceive hip-hop is. I mean the majority of believe hip-hop is Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, Jay Z, etc. I have a different consideration on what I believe hip-hop is but it might not be what you would consider it. And we both might be right. Good music is good music regardless but when it doesn't seem to hold any substance, then I don't consider is hip-hop. I feel that way about all music.
I think the only people shocked about Luda doing this song are those that don't really listen to his music (ie just saw a popular rapper doing a track with Justin Beiber and assumed it was a "sellout" move). To me, there's nothing about Luda's verse that contradicts his public persona. As far as stuff like Ice Cube doing family comedies: hip-hop is such a young genre, just now we're finally seeing things like rappers staying relevant for 2+ decades (such as Ice Cube). It might seem like "selling out" to some, but I think it's just a simple case of aging. Ice Cube is a man! He's 40! NWA die-hards might not want to admit it, but "Are We There Yet?" is probably a lot "realer" to today's Cube than "Straight Outta Compton." It would be silly to see Ice Cube put out another gangsta rap album. Even within the realm of acting, we've seen Cube transform from a young hood (Boyz) to the father figure/family man (AWTY? and to a lesser extent Barber Shop). he hasn't sold out so much as just aged.
<br> I definitely agree with your last statement. I couldn't care less who is a sellout. If it's good I will listen. I also hate people who are like "yeah I listen to underground rap, it's the only real **** out there." Yeah ok people. I would say that about 75% of underground rap is garbage. I think the problem with rap nowadays is there is rarely any great whole album. There are lots of good rap songs, but the rest of the album is generally filler. These aren't the days of Illmatic, Chronic, hell even Eminem and Kanye West. Most of the stuff that comes out has a good song or two and the rest is crap. That's why it's really hard to get into rap. I think the last album that was really noteworthy (and mainstream) was probably the last T.I. one and that was a while back...
oh, okay. so you're speaking about hip-hop more as an idea/culture/positive adjective as opposed to just a musical genre. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
I believe it's both entwined together. That's how it started but as soon as the music started to gain success then you have people telling you what hip-hop is. Then you have people labeling it and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. So what you think hip-hop is becomes hip-hop.
"I've got blood on my hands and there's no remorse, I've got blood on my dick 'cause I ****ed a corpse." -DMX Stay true homie. He never sold out.
