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aaron brooks is in the lead for most improved player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DCHAMP, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Its not uncalled for. He is right, and as predicted and wishing AB good

    luck , you couldn't control the itch of saying lowry improved more.

    Everybody acknowledges lowry could start on other teams, but only a

    select group of people believe he is actually better than brooks when it

    is quite obvious he isn't. You'd be surprised to know that I like lowry

    just as much as brooks but you guys judge brooks so unfairly that

    myself and others like me come accross as lowry antagonists when it

    couldn't be further from the truth.
     
  2. choujie

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    I don't know how you get the impression it's only a selective group of people who what Lowry to start next season.I remember there was a poll not long time ago and more people voted for Lowry.

    I didn't come in to bring up Lowry until Lowry is brouhgt up even though I though Lowry made the bigger improvement.

    And who's better between AB/Lowry is still open to debate, you only think AB is obviously better because that's your opinion, just like I have my opionion that with the right makeup of the team, Lowry would at least fit better.

    To my, AB plays more like a poor man's Marbury in his prime, Lowry plays more like a poor man's Kidd. AB might have better looking stats, but Lowry might have better impact, especially with certain group of players.

    And I can tell you it's not about YOF thing. Just like Brooks, Lowry hasn't proved to be really good at getting Yao the ball either. But I do believe starting Lowry next season will make the team more balanced, if no major personal change and AB/Lowry improve the same amount in the summer.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Did I say that?

    I said, HE will want to start.

    But, yes, in the right situation, I think he could start, but he is not as good as Brooks because of his deficiencies in the shooting department.

    I love the guy, think he is great off the bench, a great change of pace player, but if he was starting, the Rockets would be worse.

    He would not be going against tired players, he would be forced to shoot, and in the playoffs, he is a liability on offense.

    Not on D.....at all...but on O......

    And a GINORMOUS number of posters here are more concerned with Yao Ming getting his touches.....and think Lowry is better for that.

    Yao will be limited in minutes next year, maybe he can play some with Kyle too.

    Personally, I don't care who gets the touches, all I care about is who makes the team better....and that is Aaron Brooks.

    Kyle is good too, but not at AB's level.

    DD
     
  4. redao

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    How much will Dorsey's +/- go down with the increased minutes?
    Why Lowry's +/- won't go down with more minutes?
    How do you even know their +/- when they are not playing that many minutes?
    you think?
     
  5. choujie

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    It might go down, and it might go up. But Lowry has played enough minutes to make his +/- meaningful, or to make a assupmtion that he'd still have good enought +/- with increased minutes. He earned that by his play on the court from the beginning of the season.

    Dorsey hasn't yet.
     
  6. choujie

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    That's the problem here. AB's scoring wouldn't be as needed next year as this year once Yao comes back. Yao/Martin/Scola are all more efficient scoreres than AB.

    Lowry would fit the team better when there is enough firepower but not enough defense on this team.

    Generally speaking, you need both offense and defense to win Championship.

    Look forward , not this season only.
     
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    I hope Brooks gets the MIP, it increases his trade value.... ;)

    --RB
     
  8. redao

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    how many minutes are enough? Is it defined by you or some other rules?

    How would anyone including yourself know your assumption valid or not?

    I am assuming Dorsey could be just as good as Lowry. what's wrong with that?

    Assumption is subjective.
     
  9. choujie

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    So you compare a player who played a total of 50 minutes to a player who averaged 25 minutes( same as AB last year) and try to draw the conclusion?

    Should I say AOF sucks as well?
     
  10. vince

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    Brooks is a lot improved over last season without a doubt.

    I know people want to compare the whole of lasts season vs. this season, but I think comparing after Raefer got traded shows the true improvement of last years player. After last years trade, Brook averaged 14.10 pts. 3.52 asst. 2.07 reb. on 40% shooting and 42% 3 pt. shooting. and 30 minutes a game.

    This season, Brooks is averaging 20 pts. 5.2 asst. 2.6 reb. on 43% shooting and 38% 3 pt. shooting and 36 minutes a game. I'd like the shooting % to get a little better, but Brooks is playing near legit star level.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    The problem with the Yao crowd is that they are counting on....YAO....

    With his injury history you can not count on him at all, you HOPE he comes back, but you do not count on it.

    And next year, Yao will not be all that big of a factor at 20-26mpg....he will be a great role player, but not the main focus.

    Therefore you need Brooks and Martin and Scola in the starting lineup...with Yao....play him half the game and then the bench the other half.

    Brooks is the answer.....clearly.

    20ppg scorers are not easily replaced.

    DD
     
  12. choujie

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    You know what's the problem here?

    It that's the case, say goodbye to Championship. AB can be a real nice role player for a Championship team, but noway to be the "answer". There are so many PGs and SGs out there who are better or on the same level with AB.

    AB is leading this team, struggling to get into playoffs. To have any hope for Championship, Yao needs to play close to his level last year. We don't know if that would happen yet, but there is no other options.
     
  13. vince

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    Well, even though Yao might not come as good as he was before the injury, I think that Hill might continue to develop. Maybe Yao is going to keep the position warm until Hill can take it over. :cool:

    Hill is going to be a stud once he figures it all out.
     
  14. redao

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    why the hell AB so damn good?
     
  15. DaDakota

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    He is turning into a very very good NBA scoring PG.

    I mean 7-7 from the 3pt line...outstanding !!

    DD
     
  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    AB silencing the critics once again.
     
  17. OremLK

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    His passing is improving too, and his mid-range game. I love the way he continues to work and improve himself. Totally different player from the guy we saw at the beginning of the season.
     
  18. Pest_Ctrl

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    AB might be the craftiest player around the basket right now. He hits all kinds of ridiculous layups and rainbows. Like the one last game which he just floats up the shot from dribbling without even touching the ball with his left hand for an And 1. He always finds ways to get the ball up before the defenders could even react.

    And his mid range pull up off the dribble has been deadly lately. With his quickness and ability to finish at the basket, that pull up jumper would be open all day. In my mind that's really the biggest improvement he has made this season, that and finishing around the basket. His offensive game is now complete. If the defender plays off him, he will drain a 3 in their face all day. If they play him too close, he could easily blow by, and either go for a layup, or pull up at the free throw line, which the scrambling defender has almost no chance to contest. As long as he keeps converting his outside jumpers at a decent rate, he would be close to unstoppable.
     
  19. ryan_98

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    well, only 50 more games to go.

    Most consecutive games, three-point field goals made
    89-Dana Barros, Philadelphia, Boston, December 23, 1994-January 10, 1996 (58 games in 1994-95; 31 games in 1995-96)
     
  20. Phillyrocket

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    You've really go to question whether trading AB is a good idea at all anymore. He continues to get better and better and who knows where his ceiling ends.

    If AB and Scola can keeo this production up maybe Yao is all that is needed to be a true contender. Well Yao and a Thabeet type shotblocker but damn I am hoping Hill can fill the role.
     

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