Uh-oh Those NY picks might not be that valuable after all in trade

Among the many issues on this is David Lee will have to agree to go to Toronto first. He might well have a better option or at least want to explore it.

 

First of all, the Knicks won't be able to keep McGrady if they sign two max free agents. That is, unless T-Mac agrees to play for the league minimum. Same probably goes for Sergio Rodriguez (RFA) and Bill Walker (non-guaranteed deal for next year).

Also, it is questionable whether the Knicks could even afford to pay both Johnson and Stoudemire. Amare can actually make a HIGHER max salary than the other free agents, since the max will be based on 105% of their 2009-10 salaries, and Amare makes more than all the other top guys this year.

I expect Chicago to be clearly better than that Knicks team, with or without Wade.

I think Wade stays in Miami and they add Stoudemire or (as a backup plan) Boozer. I expect that team to also be better than the Knicks team proposed in this thread.

I think Atlanta will have enough firepower and depth to stay better than New York.

Toronto, on the other hand, may go down the tubes.

All in all, I think the best the Knicks could hope for with that team is a 6 or 7 seed (assuming both Johnson and Bosh stay healthy the whole season), with a first round pick that ends up in the #16 to #19 range.

I can live with that best case scenario for the Knicks. I still say that pick's much more likely to be in the #6 to #9 range, though.

 

I generally agree New York won't be a real contender with just adding Bosh and Johnson. But they can field a good enough team to make the playoffs in the east.

Also they may have a few extra million leftover after signing to max contracts. Especially if JJ is willing to sign without a sign and trade. Let's say they get Joe Johnson and Bosh for 30 million total and the salary cap is 56 mil (Iknow that's higher than Bimathug's projection but league attendance is only down 1.5%).

If those numbers stick New york will have approximately 18-19 mil in signed players if they don't resign Sergio. That will give them another 7 mil or so in cap space. Enough to sign another solid player. Add a few old minimum veteran contracts and a few 2nd round picks bought off of desperate teams and they fill out their roster enough to make a playoff run. The Next year Eddie curry and Wilson Chandler come off the books and they should have enough to buy another close to max player.

They would have to have a lot of cards fall their way to make all of this happen and New York never seems to have that kind of luck but it could happen. Which would leave us with some lesser picks than hoped for.

 

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read the rest of his sentence..

 

Yep, no one mentions this but how does a SnT benefit Lee again?

Players like Rudy, Gay, Boozer they are not max players. They benefit more financially with teams getting into a bidding war for them.

 

Lee almost signed with Toronto last year.

 

There are not many teams that can matchup to a GAY BOOZER combo.......
:grin:

 

They better do something with the money they have by losing Johnson because without him they don't have any guys that can create.

 

In a RFA bid? That is much different than UFA where a guy like Lee would benefit more if teams get in a bidding war for his services. He's not a max player, he can't go around to each team and demand Max like Wade or Bosh.

 

Dude, David Lee grab lots of rebounds for a reason. Because he's a great REBOUNDER!!! Bad team or not, a great rebounder would always grab boards no matter what. He's a better rebounder than anyone in the Rockets uniform. Plus David Lee is a very good player. He does so many little things that is important.

Just imagine Lee is on a good team. Expect him to be even better down the line.

 

i'm not sure who you are responding to...but who else is going to get rebounds on that team? Just like on a bad team...someone has to score....

Lee also is not a better rebounder than Scola. I don't care how many RPG he gets, he just is not a better rebounder than Scola.

 

If Toronto is willing to exchange bosh(26) for Lee(27)+Filler, than a package of Brooks(25) & Scola(29)+Filler can blow NY proposal out of the water!!:grin:

--RB

 

Danilo Gallinari and Nate Robinson have averaged 12 PPG.

 

This will depend on Bosh. He is a free agent. If he doesn't want to come to Houston, the raptors cannot trade him to here.

 

It was never in the cards for the Knicks to stay this bad. OTOH, no matter who they get, it will take them a while to surround their new stars with a good supporting cast. So, even if they get LBJ, I expect that 2011 pick to be somewhere between #10 and #18 or so.

 

if lebron goes to NY, expect another superstar to go with him. lebron has that much power.

 

lol, David Lee doesn't have play a lick of defense; just go read some Knicks forum. He makes DA look like DPOY

 

Is he a free agent? Has he already opted out?

I was unaware.

If he does NOT opt out, then he is NOT a free agent, and Toronto are welcome to deal him as they please.
If he DOES opt out then he IS a free agent, and Toronto cannot sign and trade him for a player who is also signed and traded (ie Lee).

 

The team listed in the OP is not a very good team as you indicate. In fact, it would be a bottom tier playoff team AT BEST in the east. I would not be surprised if they missed the playoffs.