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CHRON - Rockets GM pledges to retain Lowry

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dingaaa, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. petechillcutt

    petechillcutt Member

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    We need to see what we have in kyle lowry full time. He can run the point, defend, rebound, push the ball and draw fouls, all of which brooks can't. This season is for building and development, start kyle now!
     
  2. dachuda86

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    Oh except Kyle can't hit the three... of course he's better than Ariza... oh the choices... how about run AB at SG and bench Ariza... done.
     
  3. kayc

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    I do not understand why so many people are trashing on brooks... ONE of the most underrated players!! DID yall forget he basically took us to 7rounds against the Lakers when no other team did. And he was basically a "rookie" AB has mad shooting skills. The dude is probally tired from carry the team on his back and running up and down the court trying to spread the offense, when guys just stand around, hes forced to take a shot. Watch the games and you will know. By the way Kevin Martin is not better than AB. Tired of all the trends saying he is.
     
  4. conundrum

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    why hasn't anyone made a poll, lowry vs brooks? Look I like them both, but brooks skills are easier to replace, there's not a lot of guys out there that play with aggresiveness and grit of lowry. You can't teach that go get um attitude, either you have it or you don't, passing and shooting can be worked on. I'm not sayin lowry should start either, I mean I don't know, but I do believe it would be much easier to replace an undersized shooting guard (brooks) vs a tenacious pg who thinks that ball belongs to the boys in red.
     
  5. albendei

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    Question for you guys: What if Brooks was the one injured.. out for those games and Conroy and Lowry were only the 2 point guards would we have the same wins/loss? would the lineup of:

    Lowry
    Martin
    Battier
    Scola
    Hayes

    ... be better?
     
  6. DorianTurk

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    lowry>>>>>>>>brooks

    w/ the personnel this team has w/out yao, aaron is the better starting point but once yao gets back lowry MUST be the starter. although he is quite inconsistent w/ his three point shooting at least he can set up all teammates, especially yao, and we already have martin and ariza for outside shooting. brooks should come off the bench as 6th man and lead the bench but i doubt that this will happen :(
     
  7. Hakeemtheking

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    Not only that, wasn't Morey himself who said it a few weeks ago that Lowry was the one player who could change the dynamics of a game?

    Some people cannot appreciate what they have. smh.
     
  8. ASidd_1990

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    Brooks is replaceable, but what Lowry brings to the table is something unique. He is the best rebounding point guard in the NBA and has an uncanny ability to get to the free throw line. The only thing Brooks is better at is shooting, but even that can be replaced.
     
  9. LabMouse

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    The rockets need keep Lowry if AB is a starting point guard. Lowry can do something that AB can not do, which becomes so important when AB can not make his shots. Lowry is the guy who can make others better, and AB can make the team better by himself. They are so different. Just do not know if other team want Lowry to be a starter, then it could be difficult for us to keep him.
     
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    Who would you draft then? If the Knicks continue on with their losing pace, they might be in the top 5 lotto. I can see Morey drafting either Cousins or even Turner, if someone is stupid enough not to get him.
     
  11. HeyDude

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    I'd love our depth and really hope we resign him. Brooks and Lowry are perfect compliment to each other.
     
  12. TEXNIFICENT

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    This is the bottom line! You need quality depth to win.
     
  13. HeyDude

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    I think it may be easier for Brooks to become a better passer (he's progressing nicely imo) than it would be for Lowry to become a better shooter (especially from the perimeter). I just think with Yao back, we need shooters around him. And Brooks is a perfect fit for RA's offense where a guard does not need to average 8-9 assists. And on the other hand Lowry is a perfect change of pace guy who can get others involved and help us avoid some offensive funks that we seem to have often. This duo is valuable together, but I would still give an edge to Brooks just because of his shooting ability. But I'd rather have both than having to choose between one. ;)
     
  14. albendei

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    I really would like having Brooks/lowry as our PGs. They both have their own strenghts and weaknesses and that translates well to a 5 man team. I do not want to see any more of Conroy that is just D-league talent... i like to have 2 starter talent PG in my team pls. There are only few teams who can boast that and we are one of them so start knee-jerking our other positions pls lol.
     
  15. Deckard

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    With all due respect, I think hell will freeze over before Utah trades that pick. They like to reload through the draft and have a good history of that. They are also a small market and would prefer a very high pick on a rookie salary to a very good player like Brooks, who'll be looking for a nice raise, but will be coming off the bench. That's putting aside the value Sloan places on defense. In my opinion, anyway.
     
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    Nice whining thread, but a 20 point per game young upcoming PG won't be wasted on the bench. no chance at all. either start him or trade him.

    Brooks is improving and improving faster than haters imagination. in fact, he will be the most improved player this season. we have no idea how better Brooks will be once he is put in with a normal functional team that do not have to start Hayes and Battier.
     
  17. ParaSolid

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    Collison! Then Brooks off the bench! That would be a pretty legit PG combo. How we would get him is another story, but I don't think Collison is a back up PG. He's a starter on any team (I just hope it isn't on the Lakers).
     
  18. van chief

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    Brooks’ low assistant numbers can be directly attributed to the Rockets line up and overall shooting as a team. Making the statement, “he is a bad passer and dribbles to much,” can be attributed to what is going on around him: Ariza not hitting shots and turning over the ball, Battier going ice cold, Martin not knowing the plays, Hayes driving to the basket, Scola getting pushed to far off the block, when Landry was here passing into double teams.

    He has been asked to be a primary scorer and on a team with limited offensive options, he is going to be dribbling too much, and he is going to make bad passes. But when the team is hot and people hit there shots his assist numbers sore.

    Admittedly he needs to make better decisions while on the court, but this is his first full season starting.

    Comparing him to Francis is rather easy, they are in relatively similar situations. We had Francis and Mobley, with no real inside presence (pre-Yao, and even Yao’s first year was a bit rocky) now we have Brooks and Martin with no real inside presence. Yes we have Scola (and we had Landry) and I really like his game and think he is invaluable to the team, but its not the same as having Yao or any other big man that can legitimately play defense, clog the middle, intimidate, and challenge shots.

    Where was this going….

    We still need Lowry, I can’t wait till he is back. I wonder when we will see Lowry, Brooks, and Martin all on the floor together?


    As for the shooting chart and who finishes better at the basket, YOU’RE ARGUING OVER .002!
     
  19. leebigez

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    Much like the landry situation, one will be signed and the other shipped out. If these 2 guys had a huge gap in age, then the story would be different. Much like when the knicks had jackson and strickland at pretty much the same time and same age, it doesnt make sense.

    I hear morey saying the right things, but someone will offer lowry near mle money and put the rockets in a bind. I like lowry alot, but brooks is the better player. Lowry could be on the radar for a team like philly or even the knicks after they get their other players in free agency. I think if the rockets would've had a legit scorer on the wings, brooks wouldn't ever have to slide over off the ball. I'm going to be watching to see how the minutes a divided up whne lowry gets back. Now the rockets have martin at the 2, the need to sslide brooks over isnt a need anymore.
     
  20. leebigez

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    I don't know how i missed this post, it could've save me some keystrokes.
     

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