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dermarr could be power forward..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by brahma rocket, Jun 16, 2000.

  1. brahma rocket

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    exactly francis3, we see eye to eye on this one.

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    Actually it is more likely the following scenario will be played out on Draft Day:

    Faced with a single First Round Pick (#9) the Rockets draft the best available "big man". That's power forward preferrably (Fizer, Moiso, Thomas, Harvey, Collier) or an available center(Oyediji,Brown) who can adjust easily and play the 4 position.

    That would leave the more easier 3 position to be filled by the Free Agent route ( Gill, Rose, Croshere, Outlaw) using a number of avenues including the trade exception.

    IMHO that is the way of it. It will only get interesting if we move up or we trade to get an additional first rounder as has been speculated with Orlando(13), Detroit(14) and Clippers(18).

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  3. Doctor Robert

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    Can we deal with this MAJOR traffic jam at the 1-2-3 positions:

    Last season:

    Francis-36
    Drew/Norris-17
    Mobley-31
    Anderson-33
    Williams-24

    Total-141 = approx. 144 (3*48)

    Next year if we draft Demarr:

    Francis-36
    Norris-8
    Drew-trade?
    Mobley-31
    Anderson-33
    Williams-17
    Demarr-17

    Total - 142

    This hypothetical would mean that Mobley gets backup PG minutes and Williams and Demarr become a SF package. What would make it more interesting is if Williams was showing his true colors at the end of last year and he comes out shooting next season.

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  4. Doctor Robert

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    With the offense we use now it is good to have fresh legs out there at all times, but when will the players start getting upset over playing time?
     
  5. MManal

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    Doctor Robert, if the Rockets draft DerMarr Johnson, I think they will ship out Walt Williams to create additional cap room for 2001. If they draft Johnson, the future plan would appear to be, have Francis, Anderson, Johnson and Mobley as your 1-2-3 and ship out Walt Williams. Save his salary to create enough cap room for 2001 to pursue Chris Webber.

    If they draft Moiso, they will probably try to pursue a player like Austin Croshere or Bo Outlaw on the free agent market with the 4.5 mil trade exception and end up keeping Williams.

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  6. Jeff

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    The only reason I can see the Rockets taking Johnson is because Rudy has a penchant for players that can play multiple positions. He loves that in a player. Johnson can really play two, possibly three in a pinch, positions and that makes him attractive.

    With Moiso, you are limited really to power forward because he is too small to guard most centers and not quick enough to go out on small forwards.

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  7. NIKEstrad

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    Sure, I could see Dermarr playing the 4 at times if we went into a lineup Francis Cat Shandon Dermarr Cato. But it'd only be times. If we're drafting him as a PF, we're making the wrong choice. He'd be playing the "4" not really "power forward". He's not gonna start PF, because he can't post up, and is much more effective as a PG. Did Magic Johnson play PF because he's 6'9''?

    Not only would Dermarr have to put on at least 50 pounds, which is EXTREMELY difficult if you'r making it muscle, but he'd have to get a post game, and he'd be raw like crazy.

    Your position is based only partially on height. Mainly, it's game.

    My personal opinion is this-You can be a PF, and also play center if you have the right height. The difference between a PF and a C is mainly height, as both basically are post players. SG and SF are also similar in the same way. SF/PF combinations are somewhat rare. Croshere is a rare example, because he can play the post and shoot.

    Skills determine your position. If height's all that matters, that'd be like saying 6'7'' Danny Fortson should be a SG.

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  8. Not Chaney

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    Residing in the Buckeye state I got to catch numerous Cincinnati games last season w/ Kenyon and DerMarr.
    One thing for sure, DJ is no 4. I really don't know who to compare him to at the moment... He has a good shot, not a sharpshooter but good fluid stroke. He gets up and down the floor nicely w/ great size, hops.
    His D may be very underrated.

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  9. brahma rocket

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    he is 6'9' thats how tall othella is , antonio m.is, and i think antonio d. is 6'8 also.so he would'nt be small. all he had have to do is put on some weight.

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    You're kidding right? Even if Dermarr added about 50 pounds (and thats probably seriously how much hed need to add), it would take away from his strengths if quickness and agility. Not even mentioning you can't take a perimeter player and expect to convert him to a post player overnight. Dermarr is a pure shooting guard/small forward. NO WAY he will ever be a PF.

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    Yup, I agree with The Cat. DerMarr does not have the game of a PF. He is a shooter/scorer from the perimeter which is what makes him such a unique talent with his size to be able to do those things. The Rockets are going to have a tough decision on their hands whether to draft Moiso or Johnson assuming both are there at 9.

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    Most likely if we draft Dermarr , then he will play power forward alot. This is rudy, he put the wizard at power forward some games. Dermarr has a Lamar Odom type body.

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    This is something that I have wondered about as well. Being so young, can the Rockets draft him and train him as a 3/sometime 4? Being still pretty young, he could eventually grow into one of these spots.
    Players can still grow once they enter the NBA. Remember when Kemp went from a 4 to a 6 (whatever position that is)!

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    As I've said, if the plan is to groom Dermarr into a 4, we're making a poor choice. It'd be easier to help Moiso become a 3 point shooter, than for Dermarr to become a post up player. Dermarr would have to gain a ton of weight. And he has NO post up game. We'd be better off taking Oyededji who has a little post up game, and working on his.

    It's like trying to make Matt Bullard into a full time center. He's 6'10''.

    In the NBA if he ever plays 4 it will be with a certain combination on the floor, at a time where the other team is going with a guy who can't score as the 4, and when we have a legit shot blocker. We'd also use offenses that are perimeter oriented.

    Dermarr is a perimeter player. Period. The End. Perimeter players don't play Power Forward.

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