He shot 43.75% last year during the season........ Go look at his playoff averages..... .33% overall Teams scouted him, and let him shoot, sorta reminded me of the days of Rafer, it is why he doesn't start. DD
Okay, I guess the rookie is going to have to slow things down and spell it out for you. The "biggest question for next year" is most definitely NOT "who [between Brooks and Lowry] can make the better entry pass to Yao?" Getting the ball to Yao has never been the job of just one player, PG or otherwise. Others can and will need to make effective passes to over/around the fronting defenses that have plagued Yao. Shane is pretty good at doing this, for one. Also, Brooks doesn't have the best traditional assist numbers, but I've heard Morey on the radio more than once refer to AB's pass-to-the-assist numbers (can't remember the terminology used), something I'm sure the team watches closely. For example, AB can beat his man off the dribble baseline and do that sweet wraparound pass to the corner which can set up the entry pass to Yao, catching the fronting defenses off guard. Bullard has diagramed this play in his post game analysis a couple times last season. You may or may not have noticed.... But what do I know? I've only got 7 posts.:grin:
Fisher is a terrible example, He had multiple clutch shots in his career plus he is a not a good playmaker...
Really, we are doing this thread again? Lowry will never be the starter. He cannot shoot the ball. This team cannot go through more years of 2 offensive players in the starting lineup (yao and martin). When you have a low post threat, you have to have outside shooters, Lowry would lay bricks along with ariza from the perimeter. I've had enough of this, these threads are getting ridiculous, why am I being pulled back into the garm? I need to stay out of this crap factory.
Agreed, Brooks is an excellent spot up shooter especially if he's open. Brooks did and will get a lot of open shots. I'd chalk it up as if Yao's/Post presence is on the floor Brooks will be out there. There are other ways to get the ball to the post if they front him that is not a reason to start someone over another.
Your first post where you have presented a logical point, but you forgot to compare both players, which is what the whole thread is about! Sure, Brooks can get the ball down to Yao and run the offense well, but there are still people out there who can do it better. In my own opinion, I think Lowry will be able to do a better job at this than AB, but we still won't know until next year. Now that I've taught you how to debate your opinion, maybe you can make a post with a logical argument.
Even though Lowry is a better playmaker his lack of shooting ability will hurt this team. Kevin Martin if he can get his shooting touch back might be able to cover up that weakness though.. People are forgetting about the Denver Nuggets game where AB was in foul trouble and the team couldn't buy a bucket with Lowry on the floor. There needs to be a balance and it happens best when both of them are on the floor.
Yep. With Yao playing we need ppl that can shoot the ball. And If you have Trevor and Lowry then teams will pack the paint all the time and dare Houston to shoot the ball. I can't wait to see a line up with Yao, Scola, Trevor, Kevin and Brooks. If team tried to double they will get burn big, big time, and we know what Yao does to teams that don't double him. Lowry key is pushing the tempo every single time and penetrating the defense while creating fouls. But with Yao in there pushing the ball all the time won't be a good Idea and with Yao in the middle the space to attack the basket will be minimum. Let Lowry push the tempo with the second unite and make this one our forte.
IMO,lowry is sure to be a better option for starter.he is better in running the whole team's offense,and more efficient in D.still he is a better passer for feeding Yao ,our best scorer next season. for sure,AB is far better in shooting over lowry,but this guy is very bad in ball passing and decision making .he would never be played on the floor together with yao. my personel lineup next season would like that pg:lowry sg:martin pf:scola sf:battier c:yao our main bench players would include:AB,ariza,jj ,c-bud,jj and hayes if jordan hill would prove himself,i don't care to get him involved!
Well, Rondo had 3 all-stars around him, and his game is better than Lowry's. Inability to shoot the 3 isn't a necessity, but you have to bring a lot more of other stuff to make up for that. Lowry doesn't do that. Between Brooks and Lowry, I pick Brooks. But my personal dream scenario involves trading Brooks for another star level player, then feature a combo of Lowry and a FA point or lottery pick.
No love for Aaron, seriously? Kyle is great in transition but not a big factor in half-court set. A guard who can create a little bit is always preferred when the game is slowed down in the playoffs.
IMO, it's more likely an adult player to improve his shooting technique than an adult improving his Basketball IQ.....I'll repost my text to explain... Unfortunatedly, court vision doesn't tend to be developed by training in adult age, as some physical limitations o shooting technique can.... This court vision is more related to IQ, something part genetic, part nurtured AT EARLY AGE.....in adulthood is less likely to find a big change.... You can see it with Tony Parker, his court vision is as good as it was when Junior, having 2 very intelligent and very team oriended stars (Duncan and Manu didn't hesitate in sacrifizing their personal stats for the sake fo the team in their primer) in the same team helped to cover such defficiency. Brooks can work when he has players that cover such lack of Baskebtall IQ, but this isn't the case, KMart is a scoring first player, less compatible when you think in the team. That's why I said before that you should notice that the whole team started to fail before Landry was traded, it was when Lowry got injured who a notorius decline begun.
im sick of the me-first mentality of brooks it was cute at first but now its gona get cancerous with him stuntin the growth of martins comfort level and production within this offense, he cant take us to the championship scoring, and hes being selfish out there now and its ugly to watch, RA needs to seriously teel AB to slow it down and look more for Martin bcuz now he has a 'im the 1st 2nd and 3rd option' mentality thats killin us.. please get well soon Kyle so you can show him how a true PG runs a team if we could package Brooks, Scola and a draft pick for Bosh im ALL for it this summer cuz everyone knows Brooks is about maxed out..
This is a fresh topic that hasn't been discussed before. What does Lowry's +/- look like when playing with Ariza, Hayes, and Battier on the court at the same time?
Lowry's style fits better. AB is a better player for now, but a not good fit for Rockets when Yao comes back. We need to upgrade the PG to be a contender. But very likely we have to live with what we have now next year.
Agreed. I really don't understand why so many people want Lowry to start. Like I said in countless other posts, with Yao in the game you want 3pt shooters. Lowry is a terrible 3pt shooter, while Brooks can shoot it lights out. Beyond that, Lowry loves to drive the ball all the way, take it to the rim, and get a foul. It would be pointless for him to do that when Yao is in the game, since we want Yao to be able to make it down the court for the offensive posession. That being so, Lowry plays better with the 2nd string. I want both guards getting good minutes, but when it comes to starting, Brooks all the way.
