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Should we give Francis the MAX now that we know his condition?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Axeman, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. Axeman

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    OK - I'm curious to know what y'all think, because I'm a little bit worried. It has become apparent that what the Rockets have been publicizing as "migraines" is actually vertigo, which, IMO, is WAY more dangerous to a basketball players career than migraines.

    This is a physical deformity within a very crucial physiological system (inner-ear). This is not something you can just take a pill for (i.e. allergies) or have surgery for (i.e. torn knee ligament). If I'm Les and the Rockets, I'm not so sure it is worth the risk to pay him the max anymore for two reasons:

    1. The prognosis of Meniere's is very unpredictable, and even the best doctors cannot predict its course very well. It could go away, or it could get progressively worse, and there is esssentially no medication that treats it 100% effectively, and the medications that are out there have a lot of side-effects. So, we don't know if two years down the road Steve Francis will be able to stand up straight and keep his balance 50% of the game nights...

    2. If we do give him the max, even if his attacks are under control, he will be practically untradeable. Most teams wouldn't take him, IMO, since it is now public knowledge that he has this very unpredictable disease.

    But, it's a tough call, because he has become so important to our team. I don't know what the hell I'd do. What would you do?
     
  2. rocketlaunch

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    I say give it to him, because if you dont someone will attempt too.
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    I'd wait until the season starts and not give a damn... but that's just me. :)
     
  4. WhiteMagic02

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    I don't know much about his condition but if he is facing a career of being in and out of the line-up then the MAX is out of the question and he should probably be dealt now while his value is high.
    I love Francis, I think hes a great kid with lots of heart but business is business. Nobody is untouchable.
     
  5. tozai

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    Someone's a little over-worried. They have been saying for AWHILE that this is what it was. It's nothing new, just confirmation of what they already thought. So, yes I think they should give him the MAX. This is treatable...
     
  6. WhiteMagic02

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    If this disease/condition does not affect his play, then by all means give him the MAX. But if its going to be a hindrance all his life then the max is out of the question. You can't invest 80-90 million in a player who may not be able to suit up every night.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    The answer is.....It depends....

    If it is treatable and controllable then I say no problem, give him the max.

    If not, then no way you give him the max.

    Menieres is strange, it can simply go away sometimes, and others it gets progressively worse.

    I would NOT give him the extension this year and see how he responds to treatment and then give him the extension NEXT year.

    Better safe then sorry.

    DD
     
  8. Puedlfor

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    Either we give him the max, or we lose him for nothing, or get back overpaid crap in return.

    Give him the max.
     
  9. leehoang

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    i would say it all depends on his condition and how bad

    it could get, but i'm sure he'll be alright.

    we should give him the max, he deserves it.

    and if we don't, we'll lose him
     
  10. sjackson0

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    Some of you are r****ds, of course you give him the MAX!!! They already said that the migraines are treatable and some of you are still paranoid. He deserves the money because he worked his ass off for this team for three years. He played hurt a lot and still was able to put up 21ppg when most players would have sat out the season and cashed their checks. Guys come on!
    It's alright to have concerns, but this is straight up disloyal.
     
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    Without a doubt, give him the max. Unless you know of another franchise PG out there ready to play in HOU...
     
  12. Dennis2112

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    YES!!!!


    Francis is worth the max...period!
     
  13. Jeff

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    The Rockets have known that this is his condition since last season. Given that this is a confirmation and the condition has been treatable until this point (he has not had any symptoms since the end of last season when his treatment began), I don't see any reason not to give him the max.
     
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    I have concerns, but I want him to have the Max, I also want him to not miss substantial games and to Max his performance every year...
     
  15. Moe

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    The facts are that none of you junior executives can say with absolute certainty what his condition will be in two years. He could be fine or he possibly could be out of the league. Some of you say it's "treatable". As far as I know, there is no cure. The diet regimen seems to be working now, but I don't think anyone can say for sure that it will continue to two or three or four years from now. It might or it might not.

    Yes, Steve has played with a lot of heart. So has Najera. Would you give him the max, based on that?

    I really don't know what I would do, but it would certainly factor into my considerations if I were making the decision. Knowing the Rockets, and how they historically have been pretty loose throwing out big contracts, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the max.
     
  16. Ubiquitin

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    Yes, the Rockets should give Franchise the Max.
     
  17. Stickfigure

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    I wonder if the NBA allows (and Steve would accept) a contract tying payment to player availability. It wouldn't specify expected performance or anything, but maybe the Rockets could get the contract insured so that any time Steve missed would not come out of their own pockets. Under those conditions, I think the Franchise is worth a MAX contract. (it won't hurt as bad once overpaid dross like Cato, Rice, and Collier are off the books).
     
  18. Jeff

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    The obviously glaring difference that Steve has heart AND superstar talent. Big difference.
     
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    he should get a marion type contract. 80 million is enough to keep him here. I think he would not mind that.
     
  20. saleem

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    Not giving him the Max will make him a free agent,and I want to have him tied to a long term contract but I still would like to see how if does this season before signing him to the Max.
     

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