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Michael Jordan comparisons

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tinman, Feb 20, 2010.

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you should only compare jordan to

  1. elite players who have won mvps, championships, or forced the nba to change the rules

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  2. you can compare jordan to any scorer in the nba

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Just because some players score points doesn't mean it's flashes of Jordan.
     
  2. Mr. Space City

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    so this entire thread was started because 1 person said mcgrady was "jordanesque"?
     
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    I simply stated that you have no reason to hate on the guy.
    Your reason is that he didn't get out of the first round ?

    Are you trying to say that his playoff stats are false that he didn't put effort in at all ?

    Those numbers he put up are similar to Michael Jordans stats who you praise and bow down to.
    So yea i'm going to compare to players with near identical stats.

    Jordan was surrounded by a hell of alot better players than Mcgrady was.
     
  4. RocketMania1991

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    Really ?

    When someone is imitating Jordan on the court playing similar to his game style they aren't showing any flashes or any resemblance of him or his style ?
     
  5. tinman

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    This thread was started because I felt some people had false knowledge of Michael Jordan. The term "Jordanesque" was used not properly.

    Basically if the salesman says that this Kia Spectra is Ferrari like. I would have to object and say no.
     
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    Tmac plays nothing like Jordan.

    Kobe plays more like Jordan, they even have the same gestures and moves.

    If David Anderson hits a turnaround jumper, does that make him "Hakeemeque?"
    no.
     
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    Huh? What you're doing is looking for similarities, not a comparison. The mere fact that you're saying its an invalid comparison means you already compared MJ's resume against Tmac in the first place, a comparison which invalidated what you're trying to do in the first place.

    Jordan was amazing, but he's not unique. A lot of the stuff he's done is also being done by a lot of other guys, hence the term "Jordanesque". When someone imposes his will on the game and carries his team to win that's already worthy of comparison to Jordan, it doesn't matter what the guy has or has not done in that particular moment he reminds people of MJ's greatness. Case in point Tmac's 13 in 35. That's a prime example of being "Jordanesque", and if you don't think scoring 13 pts in just 35 seconds including the game clinching 3 pter isn't like Jordan than I have nothing else to say to you.
     
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    kobe is the closest but still far from jordan, i only was able to watch jordan in 93 then 95 through 98 but it was truly something special watching him play, there will never be another jordan...as far as tmac i think the glaring difference is the fact that tmac could score 25 points through 3 quarters but always disappears in the 4th where jordan could drop 25 points in the 4th, jordan was a bull, npi, he was unstoppable even back when basketball was physical, i can only imagine what he'd do in his prime to the league now with it being flag footballish
     
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    I can't believe you just compared Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan such a travesty.

    How dare you do that

    Kobe needed to ride Shaq and Gasol to rings

    WHO DID MICHAEL RIDE TO A RING.

    DO YOU EVEN WATCH THE NBA ?
     
  10. tinman

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    hahaha

    dude I would drown you with nba knowledge that you need the life guard to save you.

    the fact you even think that Tmac was Jordanesque proves that you never saw Jordan play.
     
  11. Mr. Space City

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    maybe my sacasm meter is broken but...

    Scottie Pippen?
     
  12. tinman

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    Reggie Miller esque. Jordan was not known as a dude who loved to jack up a bunch of threes.

    He's had games where he would be hot, but not games where he was in need of desperation threes.

    If you think that's Jordanesque than tell Nike to change the logo of him jacking up 3s.
     
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    What about the fact that he imposed his will and dominated on the court? I think more than dunks that was really what MJ was about.
     
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    He was referring to having the ability to take over a game.

    Something that Mcgrady and Jordan did at one point or another.

    A player having the ability to take over a game like Jordan did is "Jordanesque"
     
  15. tinman

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    Thanks for your honesty.
    Jordan was a ferocious player for the ENTIRE game.
    Even in the early years, Boston when he dropped 63. Dude was never tired.
     
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    I can't stop you thinking that these two players were similar in any fashion at all. Just like I can't stop you from making up imaginary situations where McGrady had "better" teammates or wasn't hurt.

    There's no imaginary situation for Jordan. He accomplished more than that.

    50 years from now. Nobody will remember Tracy McGrady because of his lack of accomplishments. Jordan will be there forever and comparisons will be made to the next generation of dominant champions/mvps that can be truly called "jordanesque".

    As much as you love 13 in 35, Jordan's games will live on longer and played many many more times in the decades to come.
     
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    K wow.... this is *****ed up... I finally see a thread seemingly unrelated to tmac, and it turns out to be another one..

    not only wont Tmac cockriders move on, neither would Tmac haters..CF is becoming unbareable.
     
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    Interesting back and forth about Jordan. I lived in Chicago and was a Bulls fan from the Jerry Sloan era to the Jordan era. I was at the Chicago Stadium when Jordan played his first official game in the NBA which was against the Washington Bullets. From that first game you could already feel the electricity when he held the ball. You felt how special he was from the first time he walked on the court, from being regularly bashed sprawling on his fours on the court, and scoring with ease, and defending like a maniac.

    He was truly special and, from that time on, I have never seen a truly electrifying player ever again. I watched Dr. J, Malone, Magic, Bird, Dream, Barkley, Kobe, LBJ, but none of these players ever emoted the excitement one felt whenever Jordan stepped on the court. For that reason alone, never mind the stats, championships, dpoy and mvp's, no player has even come close.

    The term "Jordanesque", from what I understood it to be used a long time ago, was used to describe certain particular incredible moves, dunks, and specific outstanding games by players. It was never meant to compare any player to Jordan. I've watched most of Jordan's games in his career, and believe me, those of us in Chicago who have done so felt we were all privileged to witness a historical event, in all sports, that we may never ever witness again. I am a proud Houstonian and Rockets fan now, but those privileged years in Chicago as a witness to Michael Jordan's greatness is an experience I will always cherish. Folks, there is no player, in any sport, that has come close to the phenomenon that was MJ.
     
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    Thank you for your honesty and insight from a Rockets fan.
    I tried like everybody else to get a Rockets vs Bulls ticket in the 90s and it was impossible. Your post is the one I'm looking for in this thread of accusations.

    The McGrady fans who say he's Jordanesque, they never saw him play and use that term carelessly.

    The respect for the greats are eroding very fast my friend. anyone who can score some points is Jordan and any one who can hit a turnaround is Hakeem and anyone who throws a nice pass is Magic.

    They don't know and they don't care.
     
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  20. albuster

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    It is sad, indeed, Tinman. I just hope that persons such as yourself will continue to remind the younger generation of what truly great basketball players were really made of.
     

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