Walsh has to convince 2 premier free agents to give up $60 million.

Wrong post...

 

When was the last time a player gave max money from their current to go to a new team.

I don't think Tracy was offered max money from Toronto. Was it Grant Hill?

 

i can actually see players giving up those 30 mio $ to play in new york.

i don't think that's the case for houston.

 

What do you mean with 30 million dollars ?

30 million dollar for only one FA?

Other than that your point is true and it's funny. But I dont think Donnie Walsh is stupid, he has a plan for sure. C'mon, even Isiah can't be that dumb!

But if ever Morey gets a FA who targeted by the Knicks that would be the most epic thing in the history of the NBA. Knicks are workin on this for 3 years, and everyone's like '' aay, Knicks will be the contenders in 2010 with Lebron and Wade and Nash and bla bla bla''

 

It will be absolutely hilarious if we end up with Bosh in a sign and trade by giving the Raptors Hill or a NY draft pick. After the NY media figures out that Morey got the player they wanted with the assets they gave up.... :grin:

 

I'm pretty sure he's getting at the difference between signing or joining a new team via S&T. Different starting salaries, different annual raises, and an extra year are at stake.

He is right - it's been rare for a star to sign a max deal outright under this CBA.

 

7 yrs with higher % salary increase about 30m more than 6 yrs max deal with a new team.

 

it's 30 million over the course of the contract, for example, 5 mill less every year over 6 yrs.

And i think walsh's plan is simply, "this is the big apple"..he's hoping the FAs will think they can cash in with endorsements in NYC and make up for what they lose in contract money

 

Pretty stupid by Walsh. NY has a state tax I am sure right? Well TX doesn't. Morey can just wave that in the face of Bosh or Amare.

 

Well, the Knicks can always trade 2nd round pick to the player's original team to get the bigger raise/6th year. Of course, Lebron/Wade/Bosh's original teams may say FU instead to the Knicks.

 

Walsh is delusional. "Oh, we're New York. Everyone will want to play in the bright lights of the Big Apple." I will be suprised if they can get any big name free agents to play for the Cippers East.

 

Can Walsh provide an opt out to these guys and give them the "wink wink" that he will automatically re-up them at max level with raises, which will then help them get their lost money back from not doing a S&T?

All the same, I felt all that the whole objective with McGrady was to acquire as many assets as possible for trades. I'm sure we will go to Lebron first during the offseason and ask him if he is interested in the Chinese connection. Personally, I think it makes the most business sense for Lebron to come to Houston over New York or LA because of what it would mean if he won a championship or multiple championships with Yao. Lebron would achieve legendary status in China and would have endorsements running out his ears.

Of course, Lebron could force a S&T to NY still with Cleveland getting back a huge trade exception. That would be better than nothing.

Bottom line is if Lebron, DWade, or Bosh want to come to Houston next season, we have a legit shot if their former teams realize they are going to lose them for nothing if they don't cooperate.

 

By 30 mil he means the players bird rights and the fact that the team that the player was under contract with last can offer him MORE than any other team can.

 

Cleveland has already indicated they won't do a sign and trade for Lebron. All lebronhas to do is sign for 3 years with the knicks knowing they will give him the max deal thereafter. He'll lose about 12mil then but he should make that up in endorsements easily. In the end if the Cavs want something the Knicks will have to give up the Galinar#@ kid or David Lee. The same thing with Bosh only Bosh has pretty much made it clear he won't come back and even if that means losing 30 mil. Now that may be a bluff but in the end Toronto will have to decide do you let him walk for nothing or do you get David lee out of the deal.

So if everything works perfect for the Knicks (and I am estimating in my head) they could get those guys for just the contracts which will cost them about 28 mill leaving them about 5- 8 mil to fill the roster. If they have to do sign and trades they'll only have enough to reup Sergio. But still Bosh and lebron plus Sergio Chandler Curry 2 second round picks and Von Wafer And a bunch of old vets on their last years could easily make the playoffs. If they get those guys we won't be getting any lottery picks. Still it's a longshot for them and I could see them walking away with Boozer and Resigning David lee and Tmac. Still that would be a decent team.

Lee, Curry
Boozer, Some Old Veteran like Charles Oakley
Galinari/Marcus landry/
Tmac/Chandler
T Douglas/Sergio
A couple a second round picks and maybe a NBDL player or maybe a Bonzi wells

 

Dude!, if the NY completely messes up in 2010 and end up overpaying for a 2nd tier players(which is a possibility), hello 2011 NBA Draft!!

Perry Jones, anyone!?

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Lets hope NY has an AWFUL summer, and messes it up completely!!!! :grin:

--RB

 

It's totally illegal. The winkwink part that is and even if it wasn't they can't offer a max contract until after 3 years so theythe knicks can hold bird rights. But if Lebron stays on 3 years (by of player opt out) than they can give him a 6 year max contract then. The problem is the max contract will probably be lowered after the new CBA. So it's a risk. Anyway I'm not a capologists but I think that's the way it works

 

These superstars (Wade, James, Bosh, Johnson, Stoudemire) will go where the money is. In order for a team to sign a free agent, that player must essentially agree to reducing their salary potential by $30 million because their current team can sign them for more money than anyone else. How often does a human being pass up on $30 million? NEVER.

So, chances are, those players will be moved in sign-and-trade situations this summer. It allows them to arrive at a new destination, but still retain the high salary from their old team. The Rockets can be HUGE players in the sign-and-trade market with contracts like Aaron Brooks, Trevor Ariza, Shane Battier, and the draft picks just received from the Knicks. We'll probably have tendered contracts for Lowry and Scola (our free agents) by then, too. We can afford to lose Brooks or Lowry because either one could start, but Brooks has a much higher value.

Would a team like Toronto pass up Shane Battier, Aaron Brooks, and Luis Scola for Chris Bosh? I'm not sure they could.