you can sugarcoat it as much as you want. It's not a great trade in the records. but hell, the season is almost over. playoff caliber team? borderline playoff team at best
i mean at the very least 20ppg, he could possibly get to 25ppg under the right circumstances.. why do we need him to be a defender? We play good team d, you're not always going to have an all around player. They'll be ok defensively with shane or ariza at the 3 and yao down low next year. If they pick up a defensive oriented PF then even better. and that 40% isn't liifetime i believe
We are going to get a Pf. I have a feeling NY will jump in and we will land Jordan Hill and a 1st rounder; Hill be coming off the bench as our PF of course. OR Battier/Ariza will be traded. Bank on it.
For the record, I did not like the trade, but please stop looking at the trade as if the present situation will be your situation down the line. Martin has 3 years left in his contract. That's 3 years of a very servicible 2-guard that could hopefully stay healthy. Regardless. Thomas is an expiring contract and over 8 mil off the books. Sure, resigning Scola and the contract increases will nullify that, but I'm inclined to believe that Thomas could still be dealt before tomorrow's over. Hilton Armstong has a 3+ mil contract for next year. He's a 6'11" forward/center that was a pretty nice defensive presence if I remembered correctly. You are now inclined to resign Scola. Your new starting lineup will include Brooks/Martin/Ariza/Scola/Yao in 2010-2011 (barring injuries, of course) Your bench has Lowry/Budinger/Battier/Hayes/David Anderson, and of course,whatever you could pick up with your MLE (likely a 4/5) With some of these contracts, you could actually package a Battier/Ariza like player with a sign and trade with Scola for something bigger. The idea is that this team is deep enough to take a chance on a good outside player that scored an average of 23 pts a game for the past 3 years. He's young and servicible. His defense isn't horrible either. He could be the perfect compliment for our half-court game with Yao and could definitely free up Brooks. Remember, Scola's contract goes out this year, and Landry next. How would that affect us going forward? I understand the "Landry could break out" argument, but Landry does show a couple weaknesses this year. People like to point out stats and rebounding, but it seem that Landry's outlet passes out of double teams is very shady at best. I believe teams are figuring out and the Carl Landry that was overpowering earlier this season could very well be his best. We as Rockets fans don't want to believe that. Him battling through missing teeth just adds to that "Legendary Rocket" status for most of us. His value is what the league sees of him. Heck, Al Harrington's a 6th man of the year candidate at one point, and what that really means is that he is a spark off the bench that could score and is a possible go-to guy. I'm hoping Budinger could turn into something like that. (could be a pipe-dream, but I believe he's showing nearly as much as Carl was showing in his rookie season.) What everything came down to, is that everything's not done yet. We as Rocket fans fell in love with Landry's intensity and the idea that we got him out of the second round (major steal). We would all love to trade McGrady straight up for Martin, but obviously, that doesn't work. Let's just all hope that Kenny Thomas is just a piece of trade bait to package tomorrow before the deadline?!? (unlikely, but I could dream.)+
This isn't 3 years ago when Kmart was a legit high efficiency scorer This man is on a steady decline thats been sped up by his injury prone body unable to handle a full season Look at his last season and his current season stats. The man played 21 games only so far, and he's shooting under 40%! His latest injuries have been pretty serious as well. Anyone who likes this trade is an idiot, not to mention we're locked into his terrible contract for the next 3 years... Lord help us.
You know, has there ever been a Morey move that wasn't villified at first? I swear based on initial fan reactions you'd think the guy's Isiah Thomas. I don't care what other people think, Carl Landry is simply MUCH more replacable a player than Kevin Martin, and his salary next year will reach KMart's territory anyway. Morey will find another tweener 4 with some good offensive skills and defensive liability. And KMart could not possibly be in a better situation to show off his skills. Our half court game is going to be much more fun to watch next year than before with Yao/KMart.
I totally have to agree with this if this deal goes through. DD, I'm sorry for doubting you in your other post. It's not looking to good now. MIT be damned! I'm just disgusted, Landry....
It must be nice to go ahead and stereotype anyone that doesn't agree with you to be an idiot.... But all kidding (or not) aside, I'm worried about his injuries, but this team is pretty much banking on people finding ways to somehow stay healthy. Comparing Martin and McGrady is really not the issue at hand, so I assume you're talking about Landry. Until this year, Kevin Martin's efficiency has been increasing every year. He had an injury prone season and there really isn't enough data to assume he's in his decline. He's really had one "bad" year and it's this year where his shooting went down. I'd much rather believe he'll recover to his old self as compared to McGrady. It sucks losing Landry, but we as Rockets fans seem to ignore his deficiencies. He's not a great outlet passer and seemed to decline as a defender and rebounder while his offense flourished. Last night's Jazz game was a glaring sign that he must improve on both areas. At this point, resigning Scola is a main priority unless something else is brewing. I believe Scola fits better with Yao's game and the franchise is pretty much dependent on Yao's health for the upcoming seasons. Kevin Martin would be a very welcomed addition and a risk that the Rockets are apparently willing to risk. So until proven otherwise, we should support the team and let it sit until we start casting stones all over the place and calling people idiots.
Hello, did you look at his last season? 2 seasons of horrendous shooting in a row thats only getting worse... Open your eyes
Assuming you're adding this year to it, which is sitting at a 20 game data set. He shot 45 percent from the field two years ago with 40% behind the arc. Last year, after Artest left, he shot 42% which isn't great, but 41% behind the arc with a defense that was completely focused on stopping him. 87% from the FT line is great He averages 10 FTs per game (though likely to be less with a team like the Rockets) and opposing SGs average close to 4 fouls against him. He averaged less than 3 TOs a game and less than 2 this year (but like I said, I won't count this year until there's more sample size) All of his career highs were made last year, but like I said earlier: the team was geared towards him last year. I'd think any shooter that can shoot consistantly behind the arc would probably be a better fit in a system that includes Yao. This trade is to position itself for the return of Yao. At this point, having a SG and Scola at the 4 would probably be beneficial if you wanted to go for it all. Landry developing to be great in the next 2-3 years does not allow team peak performance; not in a team that include players like Battier/Scola/Yao/etc.
uh no, if this is the only trade. kmart is already on the decline, and we just gave the kings ability to potentially get enough cap space to sign a max player to go with tyreke, a franchise player. man, landry was the last guy i wanted to leave. he has so much potential after seeing what he can do. with starters' minutes, i won't be surprised if he scores 20 a game with ease.
Um.... y are u guys talking like we have no PF? where is love for Scola? wtf he is the only player that is playing consistently and never had health issue yall need to relax... yea Carl is good, but Scola is starter in many teams while Carl maybe can be starter in Warriors or New Jersey
realgm (yes i know) says david aldridge says the kings might deal tmac to the knicks "separately" in a deal similar to what was discussed with us. so if this is freakin' true, the kings can end up with landry, hill, picks (protected) + capspace, you have got to be freakin' me. THIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE.
if i was the kings, i trade tmac for that knicks' offer that was presented to us. like i said, if that goes down, : landry + hill + protected picks + capspace for max guy that's just highway robbery.
If there are no other trades in the works to land us a PF, look for Mike Harris to be called up from the D-legue soon.
Morey is not an idiot - this move is a smart long-term investment. But this year may suck given our lack of size and skill down low. Scola better step up big (he might be doubled every possession)
Most people thought the Alston for Lowry move was horrendous last season. Everyone thought we were throwing away the season. Well, that trade seemed to work out pretty swell. Morey has another trade lined up for sure. In Morey We Trust!
