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Knicks deal fizzling out? Hill may be dealbreaker

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by acshen, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. ty185

    ty185 Member

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    I personally believe it's quite the contrary.

    Hill has a great PER in his limited time this season so far. also, speaking from a fantasy bbal point, his per minute contributions are in the top 50 or even top 30 in the league(fba value, so take it with what it's worth). His name were mentioned in any possible Rox-knick deal a long long time ago, and has been rumoured to be the center piece of any deal the rox is discussing since then.

    by all indications, Hill seems to be excelling on per-minute based advanced statistics and is Morey's main target. If the trade goes through, he IS going to be a part of Rox's future plan until he proves himself otherwise.
     
  2. MiddleMan

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    I'm for the NY trade for the picks as well, jordan hill will give us size 6'11 or 6'10 full of pontential. He needs to be included with the picks or no deal.
     
  3. CheezeyBoy22

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    Are you F'in crazy man? JK but seriously Gallo isn't coming in a deal unless it's for LBJ. Gallo might as well be D'Toni's son.
     
  4. CheezeyBoy22

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    Morey is going to get what he wants at the end of the day. NY needs T-Mac more than any team out there and we all know that.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Isn't all about the future? I mean being able to swap 2011 pick and getting the 2012 pick from a team that hasn't been close to .500 in almost a decade would give morey firepower. Jeffries,curry,battier,landry,and yao are all expiring contracts.
     
  6. RocketsFan11

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    Yeah well isn't this whole deal for the Knicks about getting LBJ in a round about way? That's what the need the cap room for. So make them pay for it! Hill is nothing special...
     
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    Mannix seems to think Hill being under the Rox control for 3 years is a big deal for the Rox so it truly seems the Knicks decision on their 2012 draft pick is the trigger.
     
  8. Sekcomenpal

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    The only two spots on the court that are pretty solid for Houston is PG and PF with Brooks, Lowry, Scola and Landry... And in all the trade talks the only player we seems to be interested in are PFs or PGs... Doesn't make too much sense IMO! I would expect DM to work out something better!
     
  9. mikol13

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    I see you working, that makes sense for 2011 offseason, but then we don't sign Lowry whom I think is very important to this teams success. I would be ok with moving Scola before the deadline (it would be a must no way we could sign him cap wise) even though I like him on this team. It is just my belief NY gives us those picks regardless of Curry
     
  10. realmustang

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    Because the extra 3 mill will put the Rockets back over the luxury tax. The deal as it currently stands puts the Rockets 2 mill + under the the luxury tax.
     
  11. CheezeyBoy22

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    I can't see Morey keeping both Landry and Scola. I think one of them gets moved.

    As for everything else you said, it's all about having assets.
     
  12. jopatmc

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    I think Morey is asking for the 2012 draft pick to be totally unprotected and he would settle for top 3 protected. If he could get that, that is the chip he can use to go after Rubio when it becomes clear to Minny that Rubio has no intentions of playing for them.

    Now, if Morey can get an option to flip NY's 2011 and also get NY's 2012 and both picks only have top 3 or top 5 protection, that is even more leverage to go after Rubio.

    Morey wants Rubio.......bad.
     
  13. CheezeyBoy22

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    Is that too much firepower??? :grin:
     
  14. mikol13

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    lee, I actually agree with what smoothie said in response to you if we take Curry. They would have to pony up much more than the two picks
     
  15. StonesRunIt

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    I see nothing special in Jordan Hill like i see nothing special in Trevor Ariza.
     
  16. HowsMyDriving

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    anyone who plays such limited minutes will have exaggerated per minute stats. they are playing with limitless energy and max effort because they know they'll only be on the court for a second or two. also, generally these sorts of players play in unimportant portions of the game (garbage time, etc) so the contributions they make are not within the context of the highest caliber NBA competition.

    im not saying that he's not good, or not worth pursuing, just that the statistical evidence should be taken with a grain of salt for players in his position. I think you could learn more by watching him practice once or twice than you can by analysis of his NBA contributions.
     
  17. Kojirou

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    LOL WUT.
    Curry AND Jeffries? I'm sorry, I would need a top 15 player at minimum or New York's first round picks for the next decade in exchange for both of them - Morey was balking at taking back Samuel Dalembert, who is paid the same as Curry and is an actual starting center, as opposed to Curry who is Brian Cook but paid more. And to take both? Are you kidding me, leeb? Why in God's name would we want Curry especially when Yao returns?
     
  18. ASidd_1990

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    WHERE IS DOC ROCKET WHEN YOU NEED HIM! I want to know if we are gonna make any other moves besides this supposed NY-Chi deals? Move Scola or Battier?
     
  19. Sekcomenpal

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    It all depend on the price I guess... I don't think Scola will ask for too much! That's the point in the PF situation IMO, if anyone is asking too much we can let him go because we have the other (good) one...

    I can't wait until it is tomorrow evening, but at the same time i feel that nothing really interesting it's gonna happen, not now at least, but maybe we will get some tradable asset for this summer to get who we really need!

    We'll see...
     
  20. smoothie

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    the money for being under the LT goes to buying second round picks.

    wouldn't it make sense to give up on that money for multiple lotto picks?
     

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