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Knicks deal fizzling out? Hill may be dealbreaker

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by acshen, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. acshen

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    Source: Walsh Doesn't Intend To Deal Hill

    A proposed trade between the Knicks and Rockets is losing steam, according to a person familiar with the talks.

    "It's less likely than it was on Monday," said the source. "But you never know."

    The Knicks are trying to clear as much cap space as possible for 2010.

    "The plan was to get as many as we can," Mike D'Antoni said before last night's game against Chicago. "We want to be under the cap as far as we can go to get as much flexibility as we can get. I don't really know what that goes into, but that's the plan and that's what we're going to do. Whether we're there now and that's as good as we can do, then we're there now. Whether we can open up more room, we'll look at it. Nothing's off the table."

    Multiple sources claim that Walsh has no intention of trading Jordan Hill.

    "Donnie is not giving up on Jordan," said one Knicks source. "He told me he's not trading him."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b.../17/2010-02-17_mcgrady_deal_losing_steam.html
     
  2. acshen

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    New York in lead for T-Mac
    10:11AM

    We told you yesterday that it was looking like either New York or Chicago would land Houston's Tracy McGrady. As of this morning, that hasn't changed.

    Late last night, ESPN's Marc Stein reported the Rockets "are leaning toward taking the Knicks' offer."

    However, there's still an unresolved issue in the negotiations.

    For the price of taking on Jared Jeffries contract, the Rockets are asking for a future first-round pick. But as ESPN's Chris Sheridan writes: "A decade of sacrificing first-round draft picks has left [James Dolan] hesitant to sign off on letting another one go."

    "The Rockets are believed to be seeking the Knicks' 2012 first-round pick, along with the option to swap first-round picks in 2011, and there are unresolved issues regarding lottery protection on the draft picks."

    So while the Knicks -- who's offer along with Jeffries contains Jordan Hill and Larry Hughes -- may be in the lead, until the draft-pick issue is resolved, nothing will likely get done just yet.

    As for the Bulls, K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune reported their offer to the Rockets includes Brad Miller, Tyrus Thomas and either Kirk Hinrich or John Salmons. But sources tell him the Rockets have shown "little interest" in taking on Hinrich or Salmons, so there has been talk of a third team becoming involved.

    So, for now, both teams have snags in their offers. But Stein reported word from one source that said he expects a decision to be made today.

    Chris Sheridan
    If Knicks trade Jeffries, cap space is there for two free agents
    "The Rockets are believed to be seeking the Knicks' 2012 first-round pick, along with the option to swap first-round picks in 2011, and there are unresolved issues regarding lottery protection on the draft picks. But the bottom line for New York is that trading Jeffries opens up nearly $7 million in additional cap space for this summer, giving the Knicks the flexibility to not only make a max offer to LeBron James but also choose between retaining All-Star David Lee or trying to use Lee in a sign-and-trade for Chris Bosh."
     
  3. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    Hope it's not true. Hill is the most interesting player in any of these proposed trades.
     
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    Translation: I just found out Houston will take the Chicago deal...
     
  5. DCkid

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    Honestly, if their whole future relies in clearing space this offseason, how is Jordan Hill going to keep them from doing that? Unless they have another offer from someone this has to just be posturing.
     
  6. W22_STREAK

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    keep hill. hill is a bust anyways.

    but give us an extra pick! 2014 pick please. haha
     
  7. acshen

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    ChrisMannixSI: T-Mac decision still rests in the hands of Knicks management. If they can't come to an agreement on draft comp, Rox will turn back to Bulls.
     
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    Alternate translation: Alright, if you don't take the initial offer with protected draft picks, Hill is off the table.
     
  9. linyunblue

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    OK, we have to choose Bulls' plan.
    If we get Brad Miller,TT,and someone else.
    Then,We could trade Scola or Carl and Shane for someone like Kevin Martin.
     
  10. MiddleMan

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    Well, that sucks for NY. Chicago here we come.
     
  11. J.R.

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    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b..._mcgrady_deal_losing_steam.html#ixzz0foFX2bQj


    No Hill, no picks, no deal. Chicago it is
     
  12. spaceage808

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    I smell a BLUFF!!
     
  13. W22_STREAK

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    whats the fuss over some random scrub named hill?

    bro, walsh. keep hill. we dont want him and his damn-over-hyped-8th-bust-passing-over-brandon-jennings-and-ty-lawson-over-expectations-and-pressure-and-lottery-status,


    JUST GIVE US THE PICKS!!!

    I'd take toney douglas easily over jordan hill. any of you actually care about this jordan hill?
     
  14. mikol13

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    Posturing posturing posturing, please, you think Walsh would hold onto Hill if it hurt his chances at landing two max free agents? NO.
     
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    Walsh is trying to play hardball with Morey.
     
  17. Mav-Hater

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    Thanks New York. And good luck getting Lebron!!!!
     
  18. HeyDude

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    um why exactly would we do this deal w/o Hill? For a future pick with lots of protection? I'll pass. I'd much rather trade him for other expirings from another team that might be able to help this year and maybe sign cheaply next year.
     
  19. J.R.

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    Yeah they got a guy named Tyrus Thomas. Except there may be no picks.
     
  20. gwatson86

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    Dammit, smoothie, see what you did?! I knew that video would be the destruction of this trade!!! :mad:







    :grin:
     

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