[ESPN] Rockets to decide on Knicks, Bulls offer Wednesday

I understand the value of the Knicks offer, but why do we want so many lottery picks? This roster is not built for the long haul with young developing stars. We need a top flight impact player, or major cap room for the offseason. That HAS to be the paramount concern.

There has to be something else that we don't see yet. I hope.

 

Again bro...the money for what? Who you going to sign?

 

We can use those picks as leverage to acquire other big name players in the future.

 

We could package them in a trade for a sign and trade superstar this summer, just one option thats appealing.

 

Womp Womp lol

 

Like I've been saying this whole time, my gut feeling says that we will have at least 2 or more trades go down, 1 tommorrow and 1 maybe Thursday right up until the deadline.

 

Say what you will.

But Daryl Morey has proved the doubters wrong time and time. Remember Lowry?

 

Cmon man. Assets.

We're banking on the fact that the Knicks haven't made the playoffs since 2001. So a lottery pick or two is what we're essentially after.

Hill was the eight pick and is a rook so we don't know what exactly we'll be getting from him but a solid rotational player wouldn't be too bad.

 

some thoughts:

1. Kelly Dwyer posted an interesting article on BDL earlier this month detailing how bad Chicago is with newbies like Thomas, and that he hasn't received any guidance. He suggests that a change of scenery could shape him into a quality player. Adelman is seen as a player's coach, and could be the one to turn him around. TT also is the type of player who fits well in a motion offense system. He also makes Scola expendable in a possible second trade.

2. It's important to note that the ESPN article talks about how Chicago has a lot of expiring contracts (which I think points to those being the highlight of the deal for Houston, the same way the picks are in the NY deal); most of those, however, are bigs. What this means, to me, is 3 things:

• This 3-way deal might make sense because it allows Chicago to get T-Mac's expiring, and allows them to shed Hinrich. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yg9tbnc
• The writing may be on the wall for Scola, or Landry if the deal is right
• I think either of these trades, however, create opportunities to make another trade (i.e. the Iguodala deal), or creates an opportunity for us to do well in FA this summer (not with a out-of-the-park signing, but maybe something solid).

 

They can not read Morey's mind either.

 

Also 1st round picks are insurance against Yao's uncertain future.

 

DANCE PUPPETS. DANNCE!!!

 

I couldn't tell you who I would sign but I rather take a chance on the Bulls offer and get a PF or C (good ones in this draft) w/ that 1st rd draft pick

 

And we're back to square one. By the way, the last half of your statement shows that you have very little understanding of how the CBA works.

So if you're letting them expire you have on the Bulls scenario you have:
a 3 month rental of some combination of Tyrus Thomas, James, Brad Miller and you're assuming they're all gone after this season. This is what you say is the best deal.

Under the Knicks scenario you have:
Hill on his rookie contract, Jeffries signed for one more year, draft picks

With the Knicks trade you still have salary relief with Hughes which could allow the Rockets to re-sign Scola and Lowry without going over the luxury tax threshold.

You are saying the 3 months of Thomas, James, and Miller then releasing them all is a better case than having Hill, Jeffries, and draft picks for now and for after this year.

If that's what you're opinion is, then we just have to agree to disagree.

 

Brooks is a better example, almost everyone was mad for that pick.

 

Also Hill is a better prospect than Tyrus Thomas.

Tyrus will be a solid NBA starter...and one day bench player. Unless the guy just bursts out or something, we already know what this guy can do.

Hill is a complete unknown. You can't judge a guy by 10mpg.

Brooks had 11mpg and averaged like one more point than Hill is now. The guy has some good footwork and some nice finesse moves and can finish.

I'm not saying he's going to turn into Chris Bosh or anything...but the potential is there if he works at it. He'll instantly do better here, all of our PFs do better here and Adelman is a ELITE coach at teaching young talent. I'd only put Popovich ahead of him at this area.

 

Defeated. Nothing about the Bulls trade makes any sense for the Rockets. Glad your not the GM!

 

With the Knicks trade, the Rockets would have what every selling team is looking for when taking offers for their stars: young potential and picks.

the Rockets have potential and picks. they also have expiring deals to sweeten their offer

What amazes me is that with all that ammo, the Rockets still have a great core of outstanding role players. You may not know it, but we are currently in rebuild mode...Moreyball style

 

Understand that what happens the rest of this season is low priority at this stage. The Rockets would like to make the playoffs, but with the recent slide focus has shifted heavily towards improving the team's outlook for next year.

So, in the end, what the Rockets get out of this is an extra 1st round pick, Salmons/Hinrich, Bird rights to Thomas, and maybe luxury tax relief this year.

With the Knicks deal, the Rockets get Jordan Hill, Jeffries, rights to swap picks in 2011, an extra 1st round pick in 2012, and luxury tax relief this year.

Matching up those two deals:

Jordan Hill and the 16-18th pick in 2010 is basically a wash.
Salmons is preferable over Jeffries.
2011 and 2012 Knicks picks is preferable over Thomas Bird Rights.

The Bulls deal isn't bad, actually, but I like the Knicks one more.

 

Amen brother. Morey is the man!