[Y! Sports] Rockets, Knicks may be closing in on a deal

Sorry, dude .. I stopped reading when I saw Jeffries and Hughes. :grin:
My fault ... you're right, the picks would be nice!

 

What if Houston entered a three way deal with Miami and Phoenix?

Houston gets - Michael Beasley, Jermaine O'Neal, Leandro Barbosa, and pick from either Miami or Phoenix.

Miami gets - Amare Stoudemire, Brian Cook

Phoenix gets - Tracy McGrady, Jermaine Taylor, Joey Dorsey, and pick from Houston or Miami.

 

Barbosa sucks! Super cool Beas is an overrated pot head. NO THANKS!

 

Lets look at number based on assumptions and projections. Lets say the cap is 55m and the lt is 65m next season. Lets also assume someone offers scola 6m and lowry 4m and the rockets match. Lets also assume curry is on the roster as opposed to jeffries next season along with hill. I know thats alot of assumptions,but this is for the discussion

Yao-17m
Curry-11m
Battier-7.3m
Ariza-6m
Scola-6m
Lowry-4m
Landry-3m
Brooks-2m
Hayes-2.2m
Chase-.900k
Taylor-900k
Hill-2.5m

That brings the rockets salaries to under 63m in contracts which is still under the 65m lt. They could package some players and get even lower than that. How is curry's contract bothering the rockets? I'm banking on him playing well offensively the last 30 games driving up his value going into the summer. Having a effective curry in the last year combined with someone else gives the team a real attractive sign and trade option for a guy like bosh if thats even a option. My whole thing is, if the rockets get Hill and retain scola,landry and hayes, where will he get minutes to develop? Imo that even if the team is just showcasin g him for another trade, doesnt it make since for him to get minutes vs none behind scolandry? In the end or near future, scola or landry will be gone just as lowry or brooks will be. Now the rockets may think landry will cost more and decide to part ways with him and keep scola for 6m per. The rockets might also think its too much to tie 10m up in 2 pgs. I guess we'll see, but as stated, curry can be on this roster along with lowry and scola and not be in the lt territory.

 

I was also thinking:

If (big IF) NY somehow managed to lure James and Wade or Bosh to team up together wouldn't that mean that the picks would already lose more value?

I mean any combination of those 3 players would more than likely make the sorriest team a playoff team, so that means in this scenario the picks may be reduced to a mid 20's pick.

Just speculating and trying to get into Morey's head, I'm thinking that if they have any chance at landing two big time FAs this summer our draft pick would be, not useless, but at a loss of value, correct.

 

Where's Andersen? First round pick next year?

 

I was almost blown away by that analysis there REEKO! Please tell me why Barbosa is worst than what we currently have at the SG position? (other than his current injury of course ) Even with the injury, it's not like the Rockets can't due without him until he returns.

I understand some Rocket fans are adverse to taking risks, but I'd be willing to take a risk on a 21 year old, legit 6'10 PF, with play making abilities. If you want to claim that Beasley is the next coming of Eddie Griffin then please do so, but I think he's worth the corpse of old man McGrady.

 

knowing how fast this forum is, this has probably been posted. if so , sorry.

on espn chat, chad ford wrote.

Chad Ford (1:21 PM)


I think they're trying with the Knicks. They'd be willing to take on Jared Jeffires contract if the Knicks are willing to part with Jordan Hill and a future first. Add a player who could help now like Al Harrington and that's as good as you could possibly get for T Mac. Now, with that said, our sources in New York and Houston are saying that while there are discussions taking place, neither side would characterize the talks as progressing or imminent. I think both sides will have to bend a bit to get something done. But it's plausible that some sort of TMac deal happens with the Knicks.

 

LOL
i knew it

 

Even if that happened, let's take a step back here and look at what the Rockets are GIVING UP rather than what they are getting.

Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. (Okay, maybe Joey Dorsey, but really? Come on.)

Let's say Lebron comes to New York and Bosh agrees to take a pay cut and get below the max in order to team up with Lebron, Gallinari, Chandler and a bunch of scrubs. Let's say they get the #4 seed in the East next season. That would put their 2011 pick somewhere around #22 or so.

Then, let's say they continue to play well after the lockout in 2011-12 and get the #3 seed with the same team (minus Eddy Curry). That'll put their pick at around #25 or so.

So, in the end, the Rockets would have netted the following ASSETS:

--Jordan Hill
--The #22 pick of the 2011 NBA Draft
--The #25 pick of the 2012 NBA Draft

All for an expiring contract and scrubs.

What's so terrible about that?

 

There seems to be a lot of talk about what happens if the Knicks have a better record than the Rockets in 2011, and the resulting consequences of a flipped pick. It is my understanding (and I think Clutch referred to this as well) that the Rox, being the party requesting the flip, would have the option of switching picks in 2011. If the Knicks' pick was less desirable than the Rockets' in 2011, it would only make sense that the Rockets could forfeit the right to exchange picks. This has not been verified in any reports so far, but it does not seem logical for the Rockets to bargain for a position that they could actually lose on in 2011. At worst, they could probably decline the option.

 

I'm starting to really hate hate Yahoo sports for publishing articles which gets your hopes up then produce a counter article the equivalent of WW II Nazi propaganda.

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BimaThug again.

 

And your future as a NBA scout comes to a end.

 

You forgot about Andersen and our 1st round pick. Not to mention, if that were the case, there's no way we'd be able to use our MLE. In fact, you just conceded the argument:

As the salary is currently presented under your proposal (+Andersen, 1st round pick), the Rockets would be over the Luxury Tax (Andersen is 2.5M by himself). They would also be UNABLE to use the MLE, which in turn LIMITS THEIR FLEXIBILITY, something we've been arguing against you on all long.

You seem to think Curry + being right at, if not over, luxury tax to keep Scola/Lowry is better than Jeffries, Scola/Lowry re-signed more comfortably, AND an MLE player.

 

But the Sports institute told me that I'd get a great job with this degree?

 

Also a 2nd round pick in this year's draft. A win-win, if you ask me.

 

Don't get me wrong here, I know we're practically giving up nothing for a stock pile full of somethings. I just didn't see the justice in swapping or trading for picks that we see now as possible lottery picks that would end up being flipped into low 1st rounders. Ya know?

I guess somewhat my question or query was answered by zaam. But as he said no one has yet to confirm that this re-swap of the picks can be done. I just don't see the point in wasting a valuable asset (Tracy's contract) when there could be something a little more enticing around the corner in Chi Town or Phoenix etc.

I'm just spinning my wheels really. I know Morey's taking in every scenario possible in the process so I doubt this thought has slipped his mind.

Dude, I'm seriously glad I'm not the one making these decisions now. So many variables, hopefully we come up with the winning equation. :grin:

 

Better something then nothing at this point.