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Wade: T-Mac still got game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff Who, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Yak

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    Because he's not a part of the teams future. He won't be here next season.

    So let's develop chemistry between people that will be here.
     
  2. blink

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    are you that ignorant? i posted the article stating that tmac's salary is being paid for by the insurance company. more like "Im right because i can prove it, LOLZ" get your facts together son. i looked up my facts, you're just pulling it out of your ass

    p.s. i know more about insurance companies than you do since i deal with it at my job everyday
     
  3. rock4ever

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    Develop team chemistry= Tank.

    Tanking doesnt sit well with real rocket fans. If you have a guy that can put up some points, regardless of who it is, PLAY him or trade him.
     
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    Why do we owe anything to Yao Ming? the bloke is the second person who eats up the majority of our cap and he has been injured more then T-mac has. I'm not saying we should get rid of him but the whole idea that Yao is not at fault as much as T-mac for our failures is ridiculous. The bloke did not step up in the same playoffs that T-mac was involved and against the Blazers he didn't do what a star player should be either. We all know now he was injured but I don't see how Yao should be valued anymore. His being paid to sit on his ass and no matter how much you say his a hard worker will not change that fact and not change the fact that he may be sitting on his ass again
     
  5. DCkid

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    I believe he was using it as a point to show the Rockets do treat players well who put in the effort, are unseflish, good teammates etc. McGrady didn't really fit into that type of the player, so the Rockets didn't go out of their way to let him walk all over them.

    You appear to be taking the more hard-line stance where the Rockets should treat every player like a commodity. People have been arguing that that kind of team management makes a franchise an undesirable location for free agents.
     
  6. HRocketsFan

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    Yao should be valued more because he did what McGrady failed to do....get us out of the first round. And to say that he wasn't vital to us beating the Blazers is ridiculous. Also, if you were to rank centers in the NBA, Yao would be either #1 or #2 behind Dwight Howard. Where does McGrady rank among shooting guards?
     
  7. DCkid

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    Wow. That's the first time I've heard that the decision to not play McGrady is a decision in favor of tanking.

    I think the term "tanking" is thrown around way too often around here. It only really has a negative connotation when a team is doing either of these two things:
    1. Playing bad players who are not in the team's future plans. (i.e., giving Brian Cook a lot of minutes)
    2. Benching good or young players who are in the future plans. (i.e., reducing Aaron Brooks' minutes significantly)

    This pretty much never happens on any team, which is why it's funny how some people seem to think it such a common practice for coaches to intentionally throw games. Sometimes this might happen the last few games of the season in a close lottery race, where a coach "limits" some of the better players minutes when the team is already clearly out of the playoff race, but that's it. No team starts "tanking" as soon as the season begins.

    Hell, the Spurs decision to not rush David Robinson back from injury in the 96-97 season just so the team could possibly squeak into the playoffs on the back of a rusty star player, was really just a rational move. Why risk rushing him back and getting him re-injured when the team stands to gain so little? It's funny because this is the move a lot of people use as the prime example of "tanking" in the cheating way, and it barely even holds any water.
     
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    Agreed, the Blazers were just a favorable match-up and inexpirenced, had it been Jazz or Mavs Dirk or Okur would of had a field day.
     
  9. blactrs2

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    the NBA is not just any company. this company DEPENDS on certain players to bring in the big bucks. it's not like working your everyday job so we have to admit that players (employees) have more leverage in this situation than in a normal situation. if the league was full of teams like the rockets they would not make nearly as much money as they woudl with teams like the Cavs and the Lakers. Star players bring in money period so this isnt a one sided thing here. it's not like messing up on a regular job. in saying that i'll agree wiht the others that have stated that the rockets really messed this siuation up and are looking pretty bad right now. this is not the business to be holding grudges in. its about the money and the fans and that should be priority. i know mac messed up but we have to forget that and move on. it never should have gotten to this point....
     
  10. blactrs2

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    also to chime in on yao, unless they decide to play yao about half the minutes (half the season) he will get injured again. i think its just the way his body is built. it will be hard for him to go through a season fully healthy without limited minutes and we've proven we can play without him so i think they should consider it. it only makes sense. imo. if they're not willing to do that they may as well go ahead and trade him while we can still get something for him bc if he continues ot get injured at the end of every yr other teams will no be interested
     
  11. J-Wood

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    You just dont get it, this is not about people being Tracy fans, it about us being Rocket fans and doing what we feel is best for the team. And right now it simply makes no business sense for the Rockets to have 23 million dollars just sitting at home.

    I think the biggest issue for most fans is the fact that he was never given a chance to even see if he really could help this team and thats whats frustrating. All of the people that hate Tracy for no reason will say over and over that he is a has been and he has nothing left but the fact is that nobody knows becuase the Rockets never game him a shot.

    They exceeded their expectations in the beginning so they felt as though they didnt need him and now they look pretty stupid becasue the situation was handled poorly.

    Even if your plan was to trade him, it still makes business sense to play him so that other teams can see his abilities. How you can you attempt to trade someone and expect something good if nobody knows what his value is.
     
  12. J-Wood

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    lol, how is this a back stab..Dude if you are a player that gets injured and you hear through rumors that the team is going to trade you, how would you feel? I would be pretty upset myself and I would feel like I was the one being stabbed in the back.... Tracy could argue that any organization that trades a player just because their hurt could be considered back stabbers.

    I know what youre going to say, it s a business right and the Rockets have to do what they feel is best for the team. I agree with that, however, I also feel as though the players should have the same outlook. If this is a business, then as a player I too should do what I feel is best for me and my family.

    Youre just looking at the situation from one point of view because its obvious that you are not a Tracy fan.

    Im sorry but I am still waiting to hear/see what Tracy did besides get hurt that was just soo bad to this team.

     
  13. J-Wood

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    Ok, I agree with your post..but help me understand, when did this happen when Tracy supposedly "quit" on his team? im not sayin it didnt happen, I just dont recall?
     
  14. J-Wood

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    I disagree, if you go back and look at the numbers it was never Tracy that didnt perform in the playoffs, it was always the supporting cast. Every year in the playoffs, the supporting cast that showed up during the season went cold in the playoffs.
    Meanwhile it was totally opposite for Tracy, his game elevated, (numbers dont lie). So in my opinion, you cant fault him for us not being sucessfull in the playoffs

     
  15. el_locoteee

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    When he was booooo in houston?

    Last time I check he was getting an upstanding ovation in Houston.
    The difference is that he wanted to be trade from Orlando, here he did everything he could to stay with the team, even the season ending surgery announcement that many hate it, to void a possible trade.
    Houston is the one who won't give him a chance here and want's to move on. I don't think he will get those boooo in Houston, unless he goes and talk trash about the city which I don't think he will, he might actually keep his house and family here, as a lot of NBA players do. Just like Barkley he love the city and the ppl here but not the same for the management.
     
  16. BONIERO1576

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    Until a GM thinks that McGrady is a formible enough talent that he would want to trade a valuable piece of his organization to land him then this is just random internet nonsense. No player is going to come out and say "you know the guy was a selfish prima donna and the organization did well to distance their core of young talent away from the guy". But you don't hear Rockets players clamouring to get him back do you? Read between the lines, the organization is doing the right thing and minimizing their losses and focusing on putting talent together over the next couple of seasons.
     
  17. J-Wood

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    Dude read what you just posted, the same that that the Rockets cant just come out and say how they feel, the same applies to the players.

    Yeah... so I work for a team and I am going to come out and say to the media that I feel as though my employer is handling the situation poorly.Yeah thats smart, go public and say that you feel the team is handling a situation wrong so you can then find yourself being traded as well..Get Real..Just because you dont hear players discussing it, doesnt mean they want Tracy gone as well....
     
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    Once again?
     
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    Hakeem.
     
  20. DCkid

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    Take a look at his fourth quarter numbers when the games were on the line. He pretty much vanished every single 4th quarters in the Mavs series.
     

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