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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets88MT, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. lunaticrocket

    lunaticrocket Rookie

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    If the Rockets do other trades to get under the luxury tax, then I do not think there will be a buyout. Even if they don't, it is somewhat unlikely. He is worth more as sign and trade to the Rockets in the offseason. Which is going to get TMac really pissed off!

    We are almost out of the playoffs, so I sincerely think the best option for the Rox would be to reconcile with TMac and start playing him. If he plays good basketball, then they can get a good sign and trade. If not, they can simply take him off the books. But this ain't gonna happen...
     
  2. ArtV

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    He won't ever suit up for the Rockets again. If he's still on the roster on the 19th, then he will most like sit until next fall destroying most all of his value as a player. MLE for him will be a pipe dream. LLE will be more likely.

    The only way the Rockets buy him out is if they don't make a trade to get under the LT this year and he accepts a buyout amount that puts them under that amount which would be a very low buyout amount considering we'd need to save 3.5 from the remainder of his salary. But if he did accept the low buyout amount, he might be able to get more the LLE if he goes to NY and plays somewhat well. But will Tracy take a 3.5 million pay cut to possibly get more next year?
     
  3. A_3PO

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    We'll find out once and for all what McGrady's value is by what the Rockets get for him, if anything. The fact teams aren't trying that hard to get him now gives a hint of how low his value is. If Morey actually makes a trade that helps the Rockets, fine. I'm not holding my breath. Of course McGrady is the "focal point" of trade talk because the Rockets have let the whole world know they want to dump him.

    Dalembert, at 7 pts, 10 rebs per game and $12MM per year for this season and next is indeed sorry. One of the stupidest contracts given out in the last few years. At least with Chuck Hayes the Rockets knows what they will get every night. Half the time Dalembert's greatest effort towards a game is putting his jersey on. He's a yo yo who could be pretty good if he had the maturity to focus and play hard every game over an 82-game season.
     
  4. MightyMog

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    Like I said the Rockets destroyed Tmac value by publicly stating he has nothing left.

    At least freaking play him more minutes and keep your mouth shut on how healthy he is.

    Rockets didn't help themselves. Tmac may have screwed us last year, this year we screwed ourselves.

    We got 0 value for Tmac and Rockets may as well trade Yao and rebuild now. We ain't winning a championship against teams that have talent and play hard. Yao ain't no dream, he needs another star Player.
     
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    He might injure his back trying to toss it. :grin:
     
  6. jump shooter

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    If they don't move T-Mac's contract for any significant talent, then Im all for a full throttle tank job after the 18th. You limit the minutes of Battier, Scola, Hayes and Ariza, then scale back alittle on Brooks, Lowry and Landry's minutes a bit, then go with a heavy dose of Jermaine Taylor, Chase Budinger, Joey Dorsey and David Anderson. With goal being to try and develop the rookies and move up the draft board in a big way. I personally don't know if Adelman is the type of coach that would tank.
     
  7. TMac4Life#1

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    Well if this is the year for developing players then a trade shouldn't really matter. Why trade if we are developing
     
  8. J.R.

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    Set yourself up for next year and the following years. You certainly weren't going to get a piece that put you over the top in a trade with McGrady but it appears a trade will have or would have been better than attempting to go get something in the FA market where you'd have only between ~7-10 mil(if you didn't trade McGrady) to resign Scola, Lowry, and then go get an additional piece. And do that by staying under the LT as that appears what the goal is or halfway of what the goal is. JMO though.
     
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    TMac should get his wish but if Morey can not make something happen and can not sign a big FA this Summer then Morey will be looking at his moneyball stock tumbling down along with the organization.
     
  10. TMac4Life#1

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    I respect and understand what your saying but my thing is this team is not in a developing stage. Lowry, C-Bud, and Brooks are the youngest. Add Taylor in there yeah but everyone else is in their mid 2 late 20's.

    Two All-stars are out. Yeah any team without their 2 top guns are going to struggle. Probably no need to resign Scola in my opinon because he'll be 30. Im sure you can find a Luis Scola type of player out there that is much younger.

    With McGrady and Yao being out that really made things worse. No need to panic and add guys who just may not even fit in when the big fella gets back next year.

    All these trade rumors surrounding the rockets who is to say that the guy we get can be a second option type of player. A.I to me really seems like the type of player that can play with Yao because he is a slasher.
     
  11. tmacROX1

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    i know they say tmac wont shut his mouth about were he wants to go they wont shut theirs about how much they hate him and without him we aret even metioned in the tnt all- decade thing. 13 in 33? dunk on bradely? both in the all decade addition. :mad:
     
  12. acshen

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    Its likely we'll buy him out for slightly less than his full contract. Save rockets some money and let him go play for the knicks
     
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    I dont think the trade offers indicate his value is that low. It indicates its lower than his contract is for. I'm sure morey is out there trying to get more than he's worth, which is the problem. Tmac could be worth 50 million, and if morey is trying to get 53 million worth, a lot of offers are still going to go south.

    You said Dalembert was a sorry player. He's overpaid, but that's not the same as sorry. Yes, he's playing below his potential, but even then he's getting 10 boards and 2 blocks a game
     
  14. brian_chapman

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    why would we take Harrington we are already loaded with scola,landry,budinger,ariza,battier. Common sense says buyout or tmac sits out yr to sign with NY in offseason. Bulls might agree to 3 way(nohomo).
     
  15. T_Man

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    First off.. no more T-Mac Trade threads....

    I think the Rockets will get a good player in the off season but no superstar want have the cap space.

    I am very interested to see what effect this T-Mac drama has done to free agents coming here.

    Hopefully Morey has a back up plan... But I think the other GM's are starting to figure Morey out...

    Should be interesting off season....
     
  16. Yetti

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    What is that new direction? I still see the team mostly playing half court basketball. :p
     
  17. A_3PO

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    Go ahead and create any excuse you want for nothing happening. The fact is letting McGrady's contract expire or buying him out is better for the Rockets than what teams will give for worthless player. For the sake of perspective, you do realize he's played about 50 total minutes the entire season, correct? There are only 28-30 games left to go! How much less can a player be worth?

    $50MM vs. $53MM? Let's try squat vs. 2 cents. The notion that Morey has had good offers but is standing firm for a great deal is laughable. Nobody is willing to give the Rockets a dime, so Morey will likely stand pat. If the Rockets are willing to put Landry or AB in the package, teams will get serious. But McGrady by himself has little value to another team.

    The only team that is blatantly saying they don't care about anything other than cap space for the summer is the Knicks. IMO, if it ain't the Knicks, it ain't happening. But who on the Knicks would be worth anything to the Rockets?

    Agree to disagree on Dalembert. Guys like him who perform game-to-game based on mood swings are sorry. He's just not programmed to be a consistent performer over a long season. Guys like him kill team chemistry and disrupt progress. He isn't unique because a lot of NBA players are just like him. Just Say No to Dalembert.
     
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  18. dreamshake27

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    Morons!
     
  19. Rocket94-95

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    mcgrady will become free agent at end of season and will most likely sign with the knicks, anyways if rockets keep him after the deadline, what will rockets get?
     
  20. Aznoob

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    What exactly happened again, with T-Mac?

    I mean, I really can't remember why Adelman never played Tracy again after that 8 minute spurt against the Clippers...

    Does anyone know exactly what happened?
     

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