How can a player participate if he's hurt? How can he play if He said he wouldn't be ready till later in the year? did you see McGrady last year "playing" after a surgery that was easier to comeback from? Guess who wanted to play last year? T-mac. T-mac got it wrong again thinking a team would just give into his ego and let him do whatever he wanted. LOL at a perennial loser.
To the Rockets he is worth... 7 million and ability to resign Scola and Lowry without paying luxury tax To other teams(near luxury tax or below) he is worth 22 million.
Compared with other teams his value weighs only out to 7 million which is good enough for a 10-15 pick and a player with 1 year remaining. To the Rockets his tradeable value is 22 million, not player value. 7 Million is good enough to buy a 10-15 pick.
Considering he is an injury prone, broken down, prima donna p***y who has burned bridges with EVERY team that he has played for (Toronto, Orlando, and now Houston), I cannot see how ANYONE still wants him to play and wonder if he is worth anything to anyone past his EC. Leopards don't change spots and old dogs don't learn new tricks. TMac had every opportunity at his disposable to not only actually get out of the first round, but win rings as well and not once has he capitalized. Hell even Iverson got a POS team to the finals by himself. It is an issue about heart, determination, and willpower, things that TMac never learned and now may be too late to even try learning.
Not necessarily. For example: Sixers 2010/11 Salary 65 million - 22 million(tmac) = 43 million If the Cap stays around 55 million that's 12 million Another example Wizards 2010/11 Salary 53.3 million - 22 million = 31.3 million 55 million(cap) - 31.3 million = 23 million to spend on superstar free agents
You never hear rumors that teams worry about if they trade for Tmac, will they be able to retain him the following year. No one has asked Tmac/Houston to participate in a sign & trade. This proves teams are looking at him primarily as a contract dump....and being the largest contract particularly on the eve of the 2010 free agent market AND on the even of a new CBA AND part of his contract I believe is being paid by insurance company(correct me if I"m wrong) - his contract is especially valuable. I actually think this is ultimately why Houston will hang on to Tmac. Not that they want to keep him, but that they have placed an appropriate value on just how valuable Tmac's contract is and other teams aren't going to offer near that value. With a depressed market, a new CBA on the horizon that will most certainly change player contracts in favor of the teams, and a shrinking salary cap - there are two types of teams. Those who see the changes up ahead and are planning now for the future, and those who aren't. Of the teams who aren't there are the ones who are in serious playoff contention(Cleveland, LA, Boston, Orlando, Denver, and maybe Dallas who always thinks they are in contention) and the clueless ones. I would say there are only a precious few who are legitimately smart enough to appropriately see the value of Tmac's contract.
I believe he would also sell tickets in Philly, NY or Washington just for showing up. (Just like Allen Iverson did)
I can picture Morey in a fake beard and a Seattle Supersonics T-shirt, watching the workouts and trying to look inconspicuous.
I know. The player is only worth 15 million in talent through a trade, but to make a trade happen his trade value is only 7 million which makes it 22 million. This is why teams are asking for rotation players, because they know the same thing i see. Chances are only the Sixers and Wizards are desperate for new ground, but other teams even the Knicks view it as what i described. Other teams are asking for other players to compensate the trade value. Now you right about the Rockets part, but what i'm saying is a center point of equalty through a trade. Even 7 million + 8 million through his player value is a 10-15 pick as long as contracts match through a trade of 22 million. Doing a trade with NY is doing a trade just to do a trade when it's better just to let him expire.
I think the recent Iverson scenario shows just how fast a player's star can plummet. Iverson has at least as much in him as McGrady. Their problems parallel: -Both spent the bulk of their career as a offense focal point, needing the ball in their hands -With a drop in scoring efficiency, it's currently a bad idea to allow them to continue to be an offensive focal point -Neither are/were that interested in taking a reduced role (stars very rarely handle this well) -Teams would rather take on a young, cheap player that can reasonably replace that production while accepting more of a limited role. Honestly, what does McGrady get you at this point? Being generous, I'd say 17 ppg on 40% shooting, 5 and 5, with 3 to 4 TO. No defense at all. Probably a poor bet to play out every game remaining on the schedule. Taking him in exchange for Caron Butler is a downgrade on the court. Wilson Chandler's 15-5-2, but hitting at 47%, will give you at least something on defense, and makes literally 5% of McGrady's salary. Thaddeus Young, same story. Yes, his contract has significant value. But we aren't willing to just move Tracy for a bloated contract, and other teams aren't willing to hand over their high dollar-value bargain blue chip just to cut salary. A deal can be made, but McGrady isn't the absolute best trade asset on the market today.
McGrady is nothing more then the role of Ginobilli a scoring weapon off the bench. A spark-plug. Need buckets, baskets? His role through out his career fits him perfectly in this platue of role at this stage. He's not going to lead you, but he could help a ball club assuming he recovered. it's probably best for him to accept that role.
i think you're confusing some things. last year mcgrady was hurt, so he shouldn't have played. but that was the time when everyone said he's just a p***y and he has no heart to play through it. this year he was actually healthy (as healthy as you can be in this situation...). so, mcgrady was mad when the rockets decided he shouldn't participate in training camp and preseason. he was also the one who had to literally beg his coach to let him play even for just 8 minutes a game. and he was the one that wanted his playing time increased just like the rockets said they would. now, i'm not saying that there was a guarantee that mcgrady would be his old self again if the things went differently. i'm just saying it was the best chance the rockets had and that by going in a different direction they are the ones who are responsible for the situation they're in now. you can call him and me whatever you want but the sad truth is that all of this could have been easily avoided. and btw i was someone who said that mcgrady should have been traded when the rockets hired adelman because they are a bad fit to each other. at the same time dd was still arguing that adelman's system would make mcgrady the nba's topscorer again. LOL, funny how quick things have changed...
True true. He is kind of role player/starter type of player value right now. And other teams will need to fill gaps if they do trade rotation players to us. I agree and it does not make sense for us to trade with NY because they are so far under the cap they don't need to trade away significant pieces to get under because their salary is 27mill.
that means you say that his rehab from microfracture surgery failed and his career is over now, right? if mcgrady plays again for another team, even if it's only at 70 - 80 % of what he used to be, that still means he could have been worth more than his expiring contract. now, we will see what happens with mcgrady next year. playing again at at least 70 - 80 % of what he was 2007 or 2008 seems like a pretty reasonable scenario to me. i know a lot of people will disagree with me. but hey, they also disagreed when i predicted mcgrady would be back before 2010 last summer...
At this point, the best you can hope for is probably a draft pick or two. I don't want to trade him for a bad contract. If no deal comes through you just hold onto him and let his contract expire next summer.
